Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[TinselKoala]

So are you saying that your three layer system is the same one that Travis refers to in the famous quote? It isn't something _he has_, a real tangible object,  but is actually only something that exists in the spreadsheet you have calculated?

[mondrasek]

So are you saying that your three layer system is the same one that Travis refers to in the famous quote? It isn't something _he has_, a real tangible object,  but is actually only something that exists in the spreadsheet you have calculated?

No, I have no idea what system Mr. Travis would have been referring to in that "famous quote."  I prepared my analysis model(s) as described to you earlier.

All of the necessary dimensions are included in the posted drawings.  You, or anyone else, can see if what is presented it true or not.  The math is relatively simple, though tedious.  I can run through a complete 3-layer ZED analysis in about 3 hours, if I'm able to concentrate.  And that is with triple checking each step by one method or another.  If I was not error prone, I could probably cut it down to less than 2 hours.

I am not using any equations in the spreadsheet where I record the data except simple summation for several of the double and triple checks.  All the calculations are run on a physical Casio calculator and then logged in the spreadsheet.  So errors are frequent in my work and forces the necessary double and triple checks.

[LarryC]

hi larry

did  you scale the pod height ,water height, .. etc  in this picture?

Hi Marsing,


No, it's main purpose is just to show a close approximation of water level and Pod / Riser movement. In Wayne's old model, the pod was 30" diameter and height was 72". There are many combinations of dimensions and this it not the current design. We use very complex spreadsheets with VBA code to determine the best combination. The spreadsheets shown are very simple.


Much higher efficiency occur when two zeds are flow connected. I showed that in my earlier spreadsheet attached.


Larry   

[minnie]

   Hi,
       the reference to hydraulic accumulator is a load of crap. You can't store energy in a
   non compressible fluid. Hydraulic accumulators are gas or spring sort of things and are
   used to even out the flow in systems. I suppose a water tower is a type of hydraulic
   accumulator, but look at how high you have to pump the water to be able to store an
   appreciable amount of energy.
                                       John.

[TinselKoala]

Let me ask you (any of you) if you really believe that, within three months of receiving necessary funding, Wayne Travis could erect a 50 kW self running powerplant at his Church, or anywhere else. Heck, give him six months to do it and a million dollars to work with.

Do ANY of you believe it?

(I won't post the slide again; I'm sure everybody has a copy of the PowerPoint slide show that was presented to prospective investors in late 2010 or early 2011, PROMISING to do just such a thing.)

Do ANY of you really believe he could actually fullfill that promise?  Red-Sunset? LarryC? What about it, put your FAITH where your spreadsheets are and answer the simple question. Do you really believe that Travis could do what he promised in that PPT presentation to prospective investors?


Or have there been too many "setbacks", "door closings", "expectations not met" and "funds not delivered" and "lawsuits" which distract Travis from the main business of Saving the World?

(DARN, it stopped again. Where did I put that Teflon tape?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKctCl_pr7A

The date on the white board looks like 9-12-2013, I think.