Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[Magluvin]

Geeze Mags, lighten up a bit over there.  Wayne has asked folks for money for a device that does not work, can't work, will not work, he can't prove it works...etc.

Do YOU not see anything wrong with this?  If you don't, I don't know what to tell you.

Bill

"Wayne has asked folks for money for a device that does not work, can't work, will not work, he can't prove it works...etc."

You have built it? And you have shown it does not work??? Has Mark? Has MH?  Bah, he never builds anything yet knows it all in 10 sec of looking at it, right? Well, I dont follow the 10 sec diagnosis bullony.  Just the mention of OU and the 'no it isnt' comes without the 'work' to prove it. Thats so easy. I wish I had that job. Boring but probably pays ok.

You guys can talk all you want. But you never prove that it doesnt work, just state whats in the books, all in a tight little box.


So what if Wayne has an investor. As long as its not you or your Mom, what do you care? People get investments all the time.  Sure some people get ripped off. But man you better be able to back up your statements of lies, thievery, ponzi, criminality. Wayne is not making the argument, you are. He is giving only what he said he would give, and the 2 people that are interested are being persecuted for doing what they want to do, and you have a problem with that??? So put up your numbers and show your non working device, then I will listen.  Meanwhile, why cant these 3 guys hang out and discuss what they want in peace??? No?? They must pay for their deeds!!!

Mags

[TinselKoala]

I dont recall Mr W asking for investments here. Is that what he is doing? If so, I must have missed it.

Mags

He is "fully funded". Money from new investors has been used to buy out or service interest obligations of older original investors. Check the WIKI for what that system is called.

Bu you might well ask yourself what he IS doing here, since we are an insignificant internet forum and every second he spends here is a second that he is not spending saving the World from the Tyranny of Big Oil. Personally I think he is trying to build credibility and interest, just like in the old locked thread, and when he sees that he cannot meet the challenges from people here.... he will again ask Stefan to lock the thread, or perhaps he'll just go away. Mad. After all, when you have a self-running machine, even a "5 hp net" one.... people will find out and will come and take a look. People like DIA, CIA, Mossad, NKVD, you name it. Free energy from a device that can run itself has immediate and game-changing military applications, as I have pointed out before. The mere fact that Travis is posting his nonsense here and can't wait to get back on after his dinner, is very strong evidence that nobody, really, is interested in him except some people he's charmed the pants off...er, I mean charmed the wallets out of. They are paying for his "expectations" and his projected milestone dates, with the hope that Wayne will _someday_ be able to translate his fantasy into reality. This milestone day will never come. It will be next month, next week or even tomorrow... but tomorrow something else will prevent the current prototype from continuing to "run" once the Flow Assist stops being put in from outside.

[Magluvin]

Do you suffer under the delusion that Wayne believes what he claims?  Do you think that in six years he has not been exposed to professional evaluation of his false claims?  Do you think that he has ever demonstrated to himself or anyone else what he has claimed to have for years?

This thread was set up by Mondrasek to analyze his problem as he set it up.  So far it appears that I am the only one who has done that.

I suffer having to hop over your endless bickering posts to read real subject matter of what the thread is actually about.


"Do you think that in six years he has not been exposed to professional evaluation of his false claims?"

Show me proof of your statement..  You act like you are telling a truth here. Show me the paperwork on that Mark. Proof.  You cant.   What does that make you??? A guesser?

Mags

[TinselKoala]

One other person went on a mad rampage like this last time he couldn't control the conversation, I was told that you and he were the same person.

MH backed up the other guy as well - the whole time....

I am now convinced you are one and the same. - if not - no distinction.

You have earned block.

Good bye.

That little bit of paranoia and denial of reality earns a ROFL for sure.

Don't worry, MarkE, Travis's "Block" is transparent. I'm on his "block" list too. He will always peek around the block and he will always never answer the direct question that Minnie has so politely asked.

[MarkE]

"Wayne has asked folks for money for a device that does not work, can't work, will not work, he can't prove it works...etc."

You have built it? And you have shown it does not work??? Has Mark? Has MH?  Bah, he never builds anything yet knows it all in 10 sec of looking at it, right? Well, I dont follow the 10 sec diagnosis bullony.  Just the mention of OU and the 'no it isnt' comes without the 'work' to prove it. Thats so easy. I wish I had that job. Boring but probably pays ok.

When each of the constituent elements of a process is underunity, the entire process is underunity.  The Wayne Travis approved Mondrasek "ideal ZED" is quite lossy. 

You guys can talk all you want. But you never prove that it doesnt work, just state whats in the books, all in a tight little box.

Please tell me that you aren't going to argue from ignorance.

So what if Wayne has an investor. As long as its not you or your Mom, what do you care? People get investments all the time.  Sure some people get ripped off. But man you better be able to back up your statements of lies, thievery, ponzi, criminality.

I refer you to the Acts 1933 and 1934 for the required standard.  As to the science, see the analysis.

Wayne is not making the argument, you are. He is giving only what he said he would give, and the 2 people that are interested are being persecuted for doing what they want to do, and you have a problem with that??? So put up your numbers and show your non working device, then I will listen.

I have put up my numbers.  Where are yours?

Meanwhile, why cant these 3 guys hang out and discuss what they want in peace??? No?? They must pay for their deeds!!!

Mondrasek invited the analysis.  When I provided a sufficient one he objected and "insisted" on more, despite that the physics for the additional step was already established.  Even so, I provided that as well.  What have you provided?

Mags