Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MarkE]

Wayne Travis admits that "gravity is always on".  Yet he claims to be able to switch it on and off.  Someone read "Slapstick".

[mrwayne]

IMO the first two highlighted bits are misleading, but the third is an obvious lie and a false claim.

Now - Orbo - "an obvious lie and a false claim"

What do you base that off?

Wayne

[Magluvin]

Wow, you really missed the point here.  IF you have full disclosure that you have an IDEA that MIGHT work and need research money and all of this is DISCLOSED then a kickstarter program is no problem IF you can convince others that you MIGHT be on to something.

This is totally different from claiming OVERUNITY and having devices ready to be INSTALLED IN A CHURCH, and that a single zed unit is OVERUNITY BY ITSELF.  Taking money from anyone under these conditions when you can demonstrate nothing, nor prove nothing is wrong in my opinion.

Surely you saw the difference in the above situations and just wanted to post something in an effort to defend this guy.  The innocent need no defense.  Remember that.

Bill

"IF you have full disclosure that you have an IDEA that MIGHT work and need research money and all of this is DISCLOSED then a kickstarter program is no problem IF you can convince others that you MIGHT be on to something."

Ok. But what if it doesnt work??  What if some people were to complain? What if some say they think you took the money???  Not possible??  Would you work to pay them back to please them??? Or just say that they did it at their own risk??? its in the contract???lol  Does that make you a better man that you used the words 'Might work'  or  Might be on to something??? If some of those Kick investors were not so nicey nicey, and applied pressure, if they could, would you feel no remorse??? Screw them, they knew the risks???    Im not missing any points. Im just being real. Just like this is all real. Maybe Wayne has proven things to his investors. Can you dispute that with any factual evidence 'at this time'? No you cant. But you all 'act' as if you can. 



"The innocent need no defense.  Remember that" 

Oh. Innocent until 'proven' guilty is just some fairytale rubbish.    I see no valid proof of guilt so far. Yet the stones continue to be thrown.  Thats what I will always remember. Yee without sin cast the first stone.  Bunch of saints I suppose. Hypocrisy at its best.



I dont want a fight with you Bill. Never had any issues with you and I hope you feel the same. We are just talking here, ok?  What I wrote is not so far fetched.

Mags

[mrwayne]

Wow, you really missed the point here.  IF you have full disclosure that you have an IDEA that MIGHT work and need research money and all of this is DISCLOSED then a kickstarter program is no problem IF you can convince others that you MIGHT be on to something.

This is totally different from claiming OVERUNITY and having devices ready to be INSTALLED IN A CHURCH, and that a single zed unit is OVERUNITY BY ITSELF.  Taking money from anyone under these conditions when you can demonstrate nothing, nor prove nothing is wrong in my opinion.

Surely you saw the difference in the above situations and just wanted to post something in an effort to defend this guy.  The innocent need no defense.  Remember that.

Bill

The innocent need no defense - really.

You have quoted lies that TK has spread at least twice now - please do your own research.

It was very clearly explained, by me to TK, and the rest of the forum, that The grant committee sent me to a third party - and did not give me the grant - and that plan was not funded.

But he suckered you into calling me a liar.

I am sorry for that.

You are backing the wrong guy.

Wayne

[Magluvin]

Wayne Travis admits that "gravity is always on".  Yet he claims to be able to switch it on and off.  Someone read "Slapstick".

"Yet he claims to be able to switch it on and off. "

Now, you REALLY need to show me that quote from Wayne. Show me and everyone here that Wayne said that. Ill be here eagerly waiting on that one. I really hope you can produce that piece of evidence.  But I bet Ill just get some whole page runaround instead. Bet on it.

Mags