Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[markdansie]

I have been mentioned  in dispatches again !!!!!!!
Just to clear what ever has been said or assumed (most likely the latter) I offer the following.


1. I have visited Wayne, an met withmany members of his team on three occasions.
2. I also arranged introductions to other parties who have visited on several times advising on paths forward and assisting with advice on proof of concept requirements. (highly qualified engineers and scientists)
3. I have always maintained that on my first visit, I was impressed with the efforts, the team spirit and saw some results that were interesting. However it never passed my "two day test of self sustaining"
4. I have suggested as have  many of my friends I introduced, the the need for a POC device.
5. Wayne has many people, some very qualified working with him. I am not qualified to do analysis on:
a. Their calculations and assumptions.
b. Their methods of collecting and interpreting the data
c. Their overall theory
I have however on all three occasion suggested ways of obtaining data, and or suggesting what would be required to convince outside parties.


The engineering and building of prototypes have taken many paths over the years.


I have also been taken to task by many for not "debunking" this technology. Because of business negotiations that effect many of the people including volunteers and investors (which I am not involved in), I have refrained from setting a final time frame for a POC to be running.


On a personal note, this project has brought a lot of passion and interest from many people in Wayne s community and beyond. The real story is not always about the outcome but the journey. I look back at all my dozens of projects that never worked out, sometimes I got it very wrong.


So, I have not seen the data that convinces me, and I do hope to get to see and assist in evaluating a proof of concept one day. However until that day arrives I will continue my public stance as of interest but not supported by any data I have seen to date. Others who work with Wayne, many with engineering qualifications do believe in what they are doing and their calculations. I am a very simple person, and do not get involved in such matters until a working prototype is running run and data has been collected with acceptable methodologies.


This will be my only comment on this matter.


Kind Regards
Mark

[mrwayne]

If anyone reading this new threat had any doubts about Wayne travesties honesty, take a look at the list of quotes from the old thread, Wayne will accuse me of anything he can to divert attention from his failings and dishonesty, he will also come up with multiple excuses to try and justify his failings and deceit.

Really - don't want me to refute your theory?? But you are allowed to pot shot mine....

TO all:

The ladder of a break thru technology is a hard climb - and change is hard for many people.

Navigating thru the resistance creates many set backs.

I stand behind every statement I have ever made - for the hope, the expectation, and the plan at that time.

But be real - Change happen's and people like these clowns - are forgotten.

..............

Mark Dansie is a very good man, and he has busted his tail, been honest and firm in his trusted role as a real skeptic.

Times and events may change - But my loyalty to those that gave direction, guidance, and connections - will remain solid as a rock.

That may result in different expectations and plans - as proven by powercatt.

Powercatt - you have chronicled the birthing pains of free energy.

[mondrasek]

Just trying to get focus back on topic here.  This is a drawing of the same ZED system MarkE and I have been Analyzing, but with only the inner riser.  And the pod is now a simple displacement block to minimize the input water needed to charge the system from State 1 to State 2.

Please note that in State 1, there are zero buoyant Forces on the riser.  However, buoyancy Forces are induced, or "turned on", as the 37 mm water charge is introduced to the inner annulus (what remains of the old pod chamber).

State 3 is shown after the single riser has been allowed to lift until the buoyancy Forces present in State 2 are completely resolved again to zero.  The riser in State 3 is again experiencing zero buoyancy Forces.

[TinselKoala]

Travis is here posting at 1 am, and now he's here posting at 8 am....

Maybe if you spent more time with the crescent wrench and the teflon tape, Wayne ol boy, and less time on insignificant internet websites trying to get help with your homework.... you'd be making more progress toward showing what you claimed you could, and would gladly, show to us two and three years ago.

But something always clogs, springs a leak, trickles away and the thing comes to a stop, more or less rapidly. So you make a design change or order a new part or fire one engineer and hire another one. After all, your _THEORY_ says it must work, so the reason why it doesn't must be in the hardware somewhere. Look at all the data from the data collection models! (Yes, we'd like to, but you've never presented any in a form that is interpretable by non-cult members.) Just like all divinely inspired free energy saviours -- there have been many -- you are so sure that your "theory" predicts a working device that you are willing to lie and cheat, make false promises, "expectations not met" in order to keep your operation going in the hope that someone, some day may actually make something that Runs Itself, with No Input, No Exhaust, just "net" energy output converted to electricity that you can run your home on. 

Yes, I'm here posting too. Problem is, I don't have a world to save, so my time is my own.

[TinselKoala]

Really - don't want me to refute your theory?? But you are allowed to pot shot mine....

TO all:

The ladder of a break thru technology is a hard climb - and change is hard for many people.

Navigating thru the resistance creates many set backs.

I stand behind every statement I have ever made - for the hope, the expectation, and the plan at that time.

But be real - Change happen's and people like these clowns - are forgotten.

..............

Mark Dansie is a very good man, and he has busted his tail, been honest and firm in his trusted role as a real skeptic.

Times and events may change - But my loyalty to those that gave direction, guidance, and connections - will remain solid as a rock.

That may result in different expectations and plans - as proven by powercatt.

Powercatt - you have chronicled the birthing pains of free energy.

In your hands, Travis, the "free energy" is stillborn. Where's the crying, wetting baby? No where but in your dreams.

And you, Travis, are finally coming closer and closer to telling the Truth. You do not have any "5hp net" device that truly runs itself, producing that 5 hp over and above the "zero input" cost of running it. You expected to have one at the time....so it was "true" then what you said, and now you no longer mention it nor will you answer the simple direct "yes or no" question about it that has been asked of you so many times.

You have dreams, plans, expectations. You do NOT have what you clearly claimed to have: a self running machine that makes usable excess energy output. Feel free to PROVE ME WRONG by showing one to someone. But you cannot, you will never be able to, and in some dark part of that brain of yours know that you can't.