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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on March 23, 2014, 09:33:55 AM
How logical is it to copy (puppet) insults made toward those that built and tested a Zed type system...

Here is what you miss - Independent replication VS  8) 8) 8)


We each make our own decisions - the self verified truth or  8) 8) 8)
Given that you hold up people like Tom as experts, who present themselves unable to understand even a simple spring, noting that you have a team that present themselves as incompetent morons is a valid observation.  Anyone who thinks that there is free energy to be had by cyclically lifting and dropping weights does not have even the most basic skills to function as an engineer or scientist.  A deposition of such an incompetent would be a hilarious event to watch.

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on March 23, 2014, 09:18:46 AM
More   8) 8) 8) 8) I did not claim that Gravity is non conservative... You twisted our claim.

What is claimed - and missed or just  8) 8) 8) - is that we have designed a "mechanical" device that circumvents the conservative field of gravity.

Big difference - Which has enabled us the ability to utilize Gravity as an energy source.
LOL, the fraud speaks.  Let us quote from the Book of Wayne,  The Act of Fraud, Paragraph 3:  "Our Technology produces clean energy Mechanically, by altering the once believed conservative field of gravity - allowing us to supply endless and abundant clean Energy."

Are you going to back pedal now from your many prior statements and the quote above and now admit that you have no means to get gravity to behave in a non-conservative way?  That will be quite a blow to the dwindling number of gullible folks who still believe your lies.

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on March 23, 2014, 10:04:23 AM
Physics is not a limiting law - it is a measure of the current level of understanding.

History does not favor the notion that the "experts" ever invent much - it is the ones that do not have limitations that look and discover.
Current physics is an understanding that your proponents present themselves as lacking even a very elementary grasp.  Evidence is required to alter our understanding of physics.  All you evidence is that you are a blatant fraud.
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So yes - We get insulted by some - and we go on and continue to introduce new understandings... which typically go thru fours years of well intending but misguided  8) 8) 8) until enough people open their eyes.
There is not one "new understanding" in physics that has come from you or your companies.  There has been a continuous stream of lies.
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The ZED has opened a new field of discovery - some  8) 8) 8) will go on kicking - history forgets those quickly.
You can keep repeating that lie.  What you cannot do is produce evidence to support it.
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Just part of change,

Good day.
It's always fun Wayne.  By the way, when can we look forward to your next false declaration that you will be leaving this forum forever?

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #926 on: March 10, 2014, 11:24:14 AM »

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8) 8) 8)

Well men, It took a good woman to make me see the light......

This is my Final Farewell to O/U.com

I am not legally able to show TK my "Suasages" again.

It is clear MarkE has only one intention... I did have hope.

..................

I have been given great advice, which I should have listened to sooner.

Thank you Mags - surely the only level head here.

.......................

TK and MarkE

I can not show you what you demand and True diligence requires true willingness.

Now do what you do so well.

Good day.


Wayne

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 23, 2014, 01:15:11 PM
Well MarkE,, neither I nor Wayne have put me forward as an expert, so you are misrepresenting the facts, period.
Would you like me to repost Wayne's claim?
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I noticed that you are again not answering the questions but rather diverting what is being asked.
It is clear that you present yourself as unable to comprehend the answers.
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Are you prepared to state that your analysis is a full and complete energy accounting of the system under question?

If not, why not.

If yes, then would you mind if your analysis is presented to some professionals?
You can subject what I have posted to anyone you want.  Who would I be to stop you?  I have shown that the Nest Russian Dolls of Ignorance exhibit the transfer function of a compression spring.  See if you can find an expert who can show differently.


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Gravity powered devices / Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« on: February 13, 2014, 04:03:23 PM »
Quote from: webby1 on February 13, 2014, 03:13:03 PM

    John,

    There is not "A" design or configuration that makes the magic.

    I got what Wayne said in the first go round on this topic, but most missed it, I have brought it up again in this thread and still most ignore it, and right now MarkE is so close that when he does see it,, well that is how I felt when I finally got at least a small part of it.

    The first hurdle to get over is the recovery, anybody remember me saying that?? and yet no one has tried to get into that at all.

    MarkE, do you know why you can NOT compare a ZED to a single piston? because you *can* get recovery from a ZED and NOT from a single piston.

    The build I was walking through will get you there, I found it easier to use 2 devices within each unit and then "sacrifice" some performance from one to have the other as free,, it was just easier to see and to accept.

    There is no difference between the system I am walking through if the weight is on the cylinder or not, the weight is an added extra.

    Buoyancy has its force trapped within the water column, that is the water supplies the motive force at the cost of setting it up,, but once you have that buoyant lift you have no more cost, then when you are done with using it you can recover your input.

    If you had a hydraulic ram, you ran the pump and moved the ram 5 inches, when you stop how much of anything is left??  what if you could conserve 10 percent of the internal forces that YOU put into the system, what if you took that and added it to your next stroke, that would reduce your stroke input by 10%,,what if to set this up it cost you 5%,, so now your ram is only supplying 95% of the output but you are only supplying 90% of the input.

    If you can view it this way you will notice that nothing new is being created, you have supplied all of the force to start with and that force is only being conserved and recycled.


Congratulations Webby,

It is hard to see, I know that the ZED system is counter intuitive -

I am Impressed that Mark tried to follow - and I do believe he will get it eventually.

I am also Impressed that you stuck it out and explained.

No doubt your explanation will be followed by pages of confusion by others - which is the case for 240 pages.

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To all - the point Webby just made - is the mystery behind our system.

It is also why our Zydro Energy group has been quietly building our company.

For all those following - Contrary to the "false facts"

We are not seeking any investments - We are fully Funded.

We have been granted Patents in some countries - all others are under examination.

The Tom Miller Video's did an excellent job of showing the inception to our future technology - they were meant to help you see what Webby just described - not over unity.

And yes - TK a single ZED can be OU - if you simple store the recycled energy and return it on the next stroke, as I said two yeas ago - which you omitted every time you miss applied the context. As I said before - why add the extra effort and time - simply transfer between systems. Get over it - you missed it.

On another note - my contact information has never changed - to  those that have tried to discredit me and our company all this time - those people never made one call or asked me one single question about their claims against us. Shame on all of you who slander by assumption.

If you realize you were wrong - I already forgave you - if not time heals - good luck to you.

p.s. I never tell people what to say or think - not Tom, Webby, Mark, Mike, or even those that are childish.

To the rest of the world:

Our Physics are simple and pure - obviously hard for some to see, but no matter;

THE BEST NEWS - The world will receive access to pure clean and reliable energy - as always - as we have been for four years - we are open to visitors.

We are blessed to be able to do this right.

Peace to all of you.

Wayne Travis