Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[mrwayne]

Really?  You've provided video of a self running ZED have you?  Where might this video be?  Where is the load in the video?  Where are measurements that show the internal energy holding steady while the device delivers its free energy?

The correct math shows that the "ideal ZED" and the "real ZED" are both fundamentally lossy.

Hey Al, I mean Mark, or Tk, or Minie...what ever...
Lossy - you are missing it still? or just 
Each time you assert your claims that a lossy system can not produce Excess - it is either diversion or you missed it - or diversion.
To be very simple and clear - our claim is that a lossy system does produce Net Energy - No Magic in the system.
You keep claiming that we have no Magic in our lossy system - that is right We have no magical OU - we do have a system that produces Net Energy - with a Paradigm shift in understanding....
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As I said before - people looking for the "Magic" is what blinds you - it is a wrong assumption to think a net system requires evidence of Magic -  your wrong assumption -
We have a system with a series of lossy exchanges and it produces a net production.
We have explained that from the beginning - this is the Paradigm shift in the understanding of Physics - you have missed from the beginning.
You should pull up the notes where I detailed the 9 lossy exchanges in our original system --- did you forget that?
You are stuck on one - and ignore or    the process......
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To be clear - you need to look at the whole system - stopping at any lossy point - any single part of our system and then making immature assumptions about possibility of the system leaves you in the old Paradigm.
"Missed it, that's all"
Only looking at party of the process ....and making claims about the whole - immature and 
Misleading others to keep them in the dark..... you will be remembered for your contribution.

[MileHigh]

Well, Webby couldn't answer the spillway question.  Nor could Wayne.  "The Wayne Brain Drain."  <rim shot>

The answer ties into the big understanding hurdle about the fact when the two cylinders equalize in water height then one-half of the gravitational potential energy in the water is gone.  Notice I said "gravitational potential energy."

This will be a simplified explanation for the sake of clarity.  For the spillway, from one trough to the next trough, the forward velocity of the water stays the same.  So the forward kinetic energy in the water remains constant.  As Bill stated, the water drops in height, so it goes down in gravitational potential energy.

Well, if the water lost GPE, where did it go?  Energy doesn't just disappear into nowhere.  (Actually it's feeding the Wheelwork of Nature.)

Just kidding.

THE WATER HEATS UP.  That is the answer that I was looking for.   From one trough to the next, the water gets progressively hotter.

The water goes down in gravitational potential energy, and it also goes up in thermal potential energy.  An energy conversion process takes place.  It's the water rubbing against itself and causing friction.  That happens at the one-meter drop.

So as the water flows down the spillway, it does not change in total energy.

There is no load, no mill grinding seed into flower, so there can't be a change in energy.

And that's why you lose half of your energy when the two cylinders equalize.  The thermal energy is considered as "lost" energy.  It eventually gets radiated out into outer space and is lost forever!

It's not "reduce the input and the magic happens," it's Wayne's Brain Drain in Spain draining lightly on the plain.

MileHigh

[mrwayne]

As usual you're very selective with what you answer and how you answer, your  maths as you claim has been proved completely wrong, so as you been asked before on many occasions show your device self running continuously
do you understand what the word continuously means ?  From what we heard two years ago your device never ran for longer than 4 hours on pre stored energy.  that is not continuously self running, also in the past you were asked to show a light streamed video of your device continuously running over days and weeks.

You have been asked many times and you have promised to have your device verified by Marke Dansie, you repeatedly avoid these issues and keep claiming that the maths proves your claim, well your maths has been proved incorrect and your claim is false, so you deserve everything you get bashing, ridicule, and childish behavior.  you are a failure and a fraudster, and it doesn't matter how many times you repeat your hollow words they will not make your device work.

What a joke, you are the only one in all these years with a device, which only runs for 4 hours on pre stored energy, but apparently you have 600% overunity and your device works on simple physics, LOL it is so obvious you are a conman.

PC - you are stuck in the assumptions of the past - you should do the math ....
Over 200 have now checked for themselves ...... and ignored the 
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Here is what you missed - and was explained on the video -
Every single stroke produces a 50% excess of the energy required to maintain the operation -
EVERY SINGLE STROKE - in case that did not sink in...
How may times would it need to stroke to produce an excess -------- oH - just one- and what does it mean if that happens every time for a s long as you want to run it?
What does one cycle of the ZED PROCESS produce - Just one --- More than it consumes.
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Let me add some maturity to your understanding of evaluation....
If we had a system that could not be proven mathematically - we would need to prove the MAGIC with a continuous runner - because something could not be understood.
Not the case with ours - why do you think we get so much support..........the Math matches--- lossy stages and All....
Obvious - once you get over the preconceived notions....that magic must exist....... your eyes will open - unless you are just a UI
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The assumption that a continuous run "is" needed for proof stems from the people who claim their system exceeds the MATH - the science, the current ability for standard engineering to evaluate - 
I would insist that a Magic claim run for days - but if a simple engineer can understand the MATH of a ZED system - and that Is a different thing all together.
Hope you actually think here...

[mrwayne]

Well, Webby couldn't answer the spillway question.  Nor could Wayne.  "The Wayne Brain Drain."  <rim shot>

The answer ties into the big understanding hurdle about the fact when the two cylinders equalize in water height then one-half of the gravitational potential energy in the water is gone.  Notice I said "gravitational potential energy."

This will be a simplified explanation for the sake of clarity.  For the spillway, from one trough to the next trough, the forward velocity of the water stays the same.  So the forward kinetic energy in the water remains constant.  As Bill stated, the water drops in height, so it goes down in gravitational potential energy.

Well, if the water lost GPE, where did it go?  Energy doesn't just disappear into nowhere.  (Actually it's feeding the Wheelwork of Nature.)

Just kidding.

THE WATER HEATS UP.  That is the answer that I was looking for.   From one trough to the next, the water gets progressively hotter.

The water goes down in gravitational potential energy, and it also goes up in thermal potential energy.  An energy conversion process takes place.  It's the water rubbing against itself and causing friction.  That happens at the one-meter drop.

So as the water flows down the spillway, it does not change in total energy.

There is no load, no mill grinding seed into flower, so there can't be a change in energy.

And that's why you lose half of your energy when the two cylinders equalize.  The thermal energy is considered as "lost" energy.  It eventually gets radiated out into outer space and is lost forever!

It's not "reduce the input and the magic happens," it's Wayne's Brain Drain in Spain draining lightly on the plain.

MileHigh

Your assumption that any loss makes a system in capable of producing NET - is old an immature understanding.
Let me help you - our scientists calculated the loss of heat during the pressure changes - and they were present - and all of the combined added to less than one single elbow in the hydraulic output system.....
p.s. this is  not a tiny electric resistor - our amplification can handle a lot of losses...
MH with respect - your assertion is understandable - but misapplied at best.
We also do not claim to be free from losses - do the math - open your eyes.
A paradigm shift in understanding - look or miss it.. That's up to you.

Wayne

[mrwayne]

Well, Webby couldn't answer the spillway question.  Nor could Wayne.  "The Wayne Brain Drain."  <rim shot>

The answer ties into the big understanding hurdle about the fact when the two cylinders equalize in water height then one-half of the gravitational potential energy in the water is gone.  Notice I said "gravitational potential energy."

This will be a simplified explanation for the sake of clarity.  For the spillway, from one trough to the next trough, the forward velocity of the water stays the same.  So the forward kinetic energy in the water remains constant.  As Bill stated, the water drops in height, so it goes down in gravitational potential energy.

Well, if the water lost GPE, where did it go?  Energy doesn't just disappear into nowhere.  (Actually it's feeding the Wheelwork of Nature.)

Just kidding.

THE WATER HEATS UP.  That is the answer that I was looking for.   From one trough to the next, the water gets progressively hotter.

The water goes down in gravitational potential energy, and it also goes up in thermal potential energy.  An energy conversion process takes place.  It's the water rubbing against itself and causing friction.  That happens at the one-meter drop.

So as the water flows down the spillway, it does not change in total energy.

There is no load, no mill grinding seed into flower, so there can't be a change in energy.

And that's why you lose half of your energy when the two cylinders equalize.  The thermal energy is considered as "lost" energy.  It eventually gets radiated out into outer space and is lost forever!

It's not "reduce the input and the magic happens," it's Wayne's Brain Drain in Spain draining lightly on the plain.

MileHigh

p.s. I did not ignore you for any other reason than the question showed you do not understand our system at all.
You do great in electronics