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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on April 03, 2014, 10:46:38 PM
well I see a state 2 lift condition and then I see a state 3 extension condition

=cir_mm2_to_mm2_1*Riser3ODCirArea_1*(ST2_AR7Height_1-ST2_AR6Height_1)*0.001

That looks like the distance and volume of the OD of R3 and the HEIGHT difference BETWEEN AR6 and AR7

Lets see shall we  AR7 =49.766667 AR6 =13.548780

So that is  49.766667−13.548780 = 36.217887 height distance of the water for lift volume without the extension

And since you did not read, one was volume for lift and the other was the volume of the extension AFTER lift

Extension after lift

=cir_mm2_to_mm2_1*Riser3WallCirArea_1*(ST3_AR7_Height_1-(ST3_Uplift_1+VerGap_1))*0.001

IF you had a question you should of ASKED instead of jumped,, get a grip.

Do YOU get it NOW
You are still double counting the Riser 3 Wall volume between the AR7 and AR6 meniscus.  You may be beyond all hope. 

ETA: added second graphic.  Note that the correct equations do not change.  Now that AR7 is higher the buoyant force on the Riser 3 ID is up as still is the force on the riser wall, whereas in the first graphic, the force on the ID is down.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on April 04, 2014, 12:52:05 AM
No problem Bill,

Did you actually read what I am using?

Do you understand what I am doing?

Mark's "formula" that he says I should use nets the buoyant lift with a lot more volume than what is there.

So what is not to get.
Tom you have been consistently wrong throughout.  You are wrong again.

powercat

Quote from: webby1 on April 04, 2014, 12:52:05 AM
No problem Bill,

Did you actually read what I am using?

Do you understand what I am doing?

Mark's "formula" that he says I should use nets the buoyant lift with a lot more volume than what is there.

So what is not to get.
What you should be doing, if you really believe there's free energy in Wayne's device, is build your own and show everyone it works, but just like Wayne can't do that, because in reality his mathematics have been shown to be fraudulent, and every time MarkE shows where you have made a mistake you move the goalposts and argue you meant something else,

but I'm sure you will carry on with Wayne's approach of blaming other people for not looking close enough at the information that's right there in front of you, the only problem with that approach is that we have all seen the information is fraudulent so many times that repeating the same argument is really now a complete waste of time.  But maybe the solution for you is to try and build the device and finally discover your ignorance.
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

mrwayne

Quote from: powercat on April 04, 2014, 06:54:26 AM
What you should be doing, if you really believe there's free energy in Wayne's device, is build your own and show everyone it works, but just like Wayne can't do that, because in reality his mathematics have been shown to be fraudulent, and every time MarkE shows where you have made a mistake you move the goalposts and argue you meant something else,

Nothing personal powercat -

But where did mark or anyone else show my system to be fraudulent....

That is not a question. It is a statement about your lie.

This is your personal issue.





minnie




    I fully agree mrwayne, your system is definitely not fraudulent .
                                    John.