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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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mrwayne

Now TK -

Can you put your guns away just for two days??

MarkE will not bother to think about my last post - his Vendetta is only about him... and his ego.

You used to be a scientist .... I think the fun you had here has definitely damaged that a bit - but is repairable.

You have two day left, will you think - without assumptions...

Maybe you can replace my "Reference mapping technology" term with a better one -

Again - I loved and give credit due to you for your "Virtual displacement"

Thanks -

Wayne


mondrasek

Quote from: MarkE on April 13, 2014, 12:33:57 PM
That is just brilliant.  So let's perform the tally: 

State 1 is the initial state. And the zero energy reference.
State 1 to State 2 requires 2.0984   mJ energy added
State 2 to State 3 delivers  1.6510   mJ  energy removed to your spillway payload
State 3 to State 1 you have not specified any recovery mechanism
Now you are back at State 1

You have now completed a cycle are now down 0.4474mJ.   Your efficiency is:  78.7%.You still have a fundamentally lossy scheme.

And you are incorrect again MarkE.  There is no need to specify any recovery mechanism for an IDEAL ANALYSIS.  You keep ignoring that fact, but doing so does not make your requirement correct.  We need only be concerned with calculating the ENERGY that enters or leaves the system.  Not how it is captured.  That is only necessary for a PRACTICLE DEVICE, not an IDEAL ANALYSIS.

I could similarly ask you to define a mechanism that makes water incompressible, or friction losses zero.  They are the IDEAL conditions as are required by an Ideal Analysis.

The spillway was never needed to calculate the Energy that is expended during the lift process.  And neither is any other physical recovery device needed to account for Energy leaving or entering the SUT.

The Energy leaving the ZED during the State 3 to State 1 leg of the cycle is real and needs to be properly accounted for.  That Energy value is 0.2022mJ.  The complete cycle loss is correctly calculated as 0.2452mJ and the efficiency is 88.3% for the Ideal SUT.

camelherder49

Quote from: mrwayne on April 15, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
Now TK -

Can you put your guns away just for two days??

MarkE will not bother to think about my last post - his Vendetta is only about him... and his ego.



You used to be a scientist .... I think the fun you had here has definitely damaged that a bit - but is repairable.

You have two day left, will you think - without assumptions...

Maybe you can replace my "Reference mapping technology" term with a better one -

Again - I loved and give credit due to you for your "Virtual displacement"

Thanks -

Wayne

Wayne--  Will you be serving up roasted crow in a couple days??

TinselKoala

Quote from: mrwayne on April 15, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
Now TK -

Can you put your guns away just for two days??

MarkE will not bother to think about my last post - his Vendetta is only about him... and his ego.

You used to be a scientist .... I think the fun you had here has definitely damaged that a bit - but is repairable.

You have two day left, will you think - without assumptions...

Maybe you can replace my "Reference mapping technology" term with a better one -

Again - I loved and give credit due to you for your "Virtual displacement"

Thanks -

Wayne

Please give a link to any location where I ever used the term "virtual displacement".

I don't need ANY "assumptions" to be able to tell that you have never yet provided credible evidence for your claims, nor have you provided any coherent theoretical explanation of your system.

You can insult me all you like, but the matter remains: This issue is not about me at all, it is about YOU and your false claims.  I could be an old lady in South Africa, scared of my shadow and making up delusional fantasies, or I could be a HopeGirl selling snakeoil in Taiwan and Morocco.... none of that matters in the least. What matters is that YOU, honest Wayne Travis, have made outrageous claims and you cannot support them with FACTS, checkable outside references or even demonstrations of your own. Most particularly.... you are all alone in your argument. Nobody is coming up and saying "Yes, I went to Chickasha and saw Wayne's 5 different systems including the 5HP system running all by themselves, making extra power to run something externally."
Nobody.

mrwayne

Quote from: webby1 on April 15, 2014, 12:18:26 PM
Correct TK.

You were Virtual Water.

Let us all remember that no "proof" that meets the needs of others is "proof" that things must be false,, right TK.

Right you are again, Virtual Water...my mistake.

I have always loved - you don't convince me so you must be a fraud.........
Really...... I don't try to convince anyone ... what good is that - I let them discover - it has more impact.

Thanks