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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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minnie




You're right Webby,
    no need to worry about those transients bothering us, they just
annihilate each other!
     Try another one,do.
                      John.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on April 19, 2014, 12:31:41 PM
Look at your work,, you define things in an ever increasing level of complexity and that is supposed to increase the level of certainty.

What that is doing is defining the environmental conditions down to specifics,, the environment can change in unexpected ways, or it can change in a controlled and predicted fashion.

You are using a circular argument, it CAN hold to be true OR it might NOT hold to be true,, just because it might hold in many cases still does not mean it holds in all cases.
That which has been shown to be true by repeated strong evidence is held to be true until strong contradictory evidence appears.  In the case of Wayne's fraud versus 2000 year old science, Wayne has come up with zilch on the evidence side, much less strong evidence.  Not a single proponent of Wayne's claims to being able to circumvent the "once believed" conservative nature of gravity.  Not a single propoentn of Wayne's fraud can show  a single femtoJoule of excess energy.
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I choose to not throw out an anomaly, nor do I throw out what we know because of an anomaly.  I choose to use both and try and find what is causing what.  It is kind of simple really.
Wayne and his crew have never demonstrated any anomaly.  They have consistently misrepresented 2000 year old science as something new.    They have consistently made false claims.  If you haven't figured it out yet:  Wayne is perpetrating an investment fraud.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on April 19, 2014, 06:16:40 PM
That is your opinion, and you are more than free to have it.

We are all entitled to our opinions, right, wrong or indifferent.
The issues of Wayne and friends misrepresentations of 2000 year old science are proven by the historical record of the science and the silly statements asserted by Wayne and company of:  the non-existent "Travis Effect", "Energy Refernce Mapping Technology", "Super Conservative" systems and so on.  No one promoting these nonsense, invented terms can either describe what they supposedly mean, nor show any of them to be actual real behaviors that are distinct from already well-established behaviors.

As to the fraud:  Wayne has made his free energy machine investment fraud self-evident. If you prefer to bury your head in the sand and ignore the overwhelming evidence of established science versus the zero evidence that Wayne has produced for his claims, then you are free to choose to be willfully ignorant.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on April 19, 2014, 10:31:46 PM
If it is overlooked by science then what?

Are new discoveries not valid because no person has observed them before,, really?
There is no evidence of any "it".
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Do NOT forget I built and tested and played with TBZED,, have you had your hands on a real device?  I did not think so.
Neither have you produced any evidence of any "it".  By your own assessment you did not find:  any non-conservative behavior in either gravity or energy.
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You are again stating your opinion like it is some kind of fact, which it is not it is only your opinion.
I state what there is strong evidence to support.  You keep committing the logical fallacy of argument from ignorance.
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Empirical trumps theoretical every time Mark,, not just sometimes,, every time,, that is what makes science evolve over time.
Neither you nor anyone supporting Wayne's fraud have offered any empirical evidence that supports his claims.  The very limited empirical evidence that you have offered refutes Wayne's claims.  So does the demonstrated failure of his machines to perform as he claims.
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You may not have what YOU need for proof,, but that is you and your level of requirements,, I believe that even if you had a running system in front of you thar you would not except the proof.
Since you have no evidence, much less proof on which to base your claim, that is pure speculation by you.

orbut 3000

That's the problem with science. It only applies to 'known' and 'observable' phenomena.
So as long as wayne doesn't demonstrate his alleged gravity cheating plumbing scheme, it's checkmate, bro. 
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