Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2

[Floor]

@ConradElectro

(Quote from ConradElectro)
"I like to make a prediction: if one uses very big magnets and very heavy weights (several kilos) the difference in friction losses will be smaller (in case the machine is mechanically well built) because the friction losses will be smaller in comparison to the magnet force involved."
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Agreement. 

The friction losses in the greater force interactions are a lesser percentage as compared to friction losses during the lesser force interactions, when using these "weak" magnets, but while useing this "mechanically more well built machine".
but also while using the current, "mechanically more well built machine".

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@ Lumen


CNC machines, a digital scale and friction is reduced to near zero.

     very very cool


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[Floor]

Hey big dogs and so on.

Below is a video link to a particular set of interactions  /  measurements, done on the new
TD unit. 

                http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4p1ome_magnet-force-test_tech

That video is PASS WORD PROTECTED at this time. 

You can PM me for the pass word. 

I ask that you do not "share" the pass word. I will probably unlock the video
in a few days any way. 

Please just ask me and, I will most likely give you the pass word.

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[lumen]

@Floor
So to get this right,
You are showing that the weight on the "Linear Slide" is lighter and travels less than the weight it's lifting on the Rotary axis which travels further and is heavier?

It's an interesting setup for sure.

[Floor]

@lumen

Yes, the sliding SLedge displacement  is from 12 deg. to 34 deg on the degree
scale, as gravity pulls  the SL weight down.  The SL weight is 158 grams.

The displacement (mm) of the SL weight,  is indicated by the degrees of
rotation on the SL dial.

This is  a common type of device, and used to indicate a displacement with a needle
upon dial face.

The ratio of the circumference of the SL scale pulley, to the circumference traveled
in the larger arc of the SL scale needle tip, is a fixed ratio.  It is simply the ratio of
the two circumferences to one another.

This makes very small magnet movements visible as larger movements by the needle.
It magnify s the motion and makes finer increments of readings possible.

The ROtational scale does the same thing in terms of the RO weight, and with an
identical ratio of pulley circumference to needle tip arc circumference.

It's just that in the case of the SL side if the actions, a  linear and horizontal displacement
(of the SLedge), as well as the fall distance of the SL weight is indicated by the needle.


.....................................................
What you see in the video is SL weight (158 grams) falls about 1/2 the distance that the
RO weight (168 grams) is lifted. 

43 degrees on the RO scale, and 22 degrees on the SL scale.
The RO weight travels only 1/43 less than twice the distance of SLand yet
the RO weight is 10 grams heavier than the SL weight.
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But, by definition...... no net work is done.....

unless the two magnets can be returned to their original or starting positions ....
with out doing the same amount of work as is done by the difference in work
between these 2 other actions, ie.  158 grams lifted by 22 degrees (in) : 168 grams lifted
by 43 degrees (out).

As seemingly amazing as the actions are, the video is just an interesting and dramatic demo.

But then those actions are not... precisely... the interactions that need measuring.

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[Floor]

A little math,

I have converted the rotation degrees into the mm of weight
displacement.  see the PNG files below

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