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Auroratek self sustainable technologies Overunity to market in Arizona USA

Started by ramset, February 20, 2014, 08:35:37 PM

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TinselKoala

Oh come on. Think rationally for a few minutes.

You are a successful major manufacturer of electric scooters. Sure, you get your tubular frames and your electronics package built in a Chinese factory, because you are a good businessman. One of the important selling points of your scooters is their efficiency: how far they will go on a battery charge. Your engineers have spent lots of time and effort optimizing the circuitry of the electronics module, because this is a very competitive industry and you like to keep your strong market position by offering the "best" product you possibly can: the most efficient at the lowest price and lowest cost to manufacture.

Now somebody comes along and wants to buy product from you, or the same product from the Chinese factory exactly right down to the decals and cable dressing, and add value to it and resell it. Oh... well what's the added value you ask. Well, replies Aurora Lightbox, we replace the electronics module with one of our own, and voila, the battery no longer needs to be recharged from an external source. Oh, interesting, you say, you've got a solar charger! No, replies Aurora, we have a system that doesn't require any external energy input, it just uses the dead battery itself to recharge itself.

Now how do you respond to that? Someone has just told you that they have an invention that will put you totally out of business in a matter of weeks, unless you hurry up and do something about it.  Good luck!



ramset

Which Part should I "think Rationally" about?
The sneaky megalomaniacal take over of The cheap import Tricycle market?

Not interested ...nor is Aurora ...

those Trikes are Nothing more than a shoehorn into the Psyche of what is now possible, if you think Tricycle manufacturers are the only ones  to have issues with this you need to start thinking a bit more rationally.....



Lets get to first base before we make a mess of this one....

The solar hydrogen tech from Jack Aganyan  was the last time I tried to bring a private conversation to a public forum and was met by inappropriate comments that made such a nasty mess of the thread that I would never be able to invite him to a civil public discussion.

Can you Marketeers please find something else to naw on for a few days... go pull the legs off some spiders or beat the cat....
?
Please....?

We are on the same page here ... you just keep running the same program except in this case there is more than hearsay
and conjecture ..
there is an opportunity here to have some info and contribution directly from the source.

thx
Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

TinselKoala

OK, I give up. I don't remember Bill Alek ever actually presenting a fraudulent actual device like Yildiz does, he has always been more in the category of making claims without evidence and projecting into the future, like Goldes and others of that ilk. So that's what I expect you'll see at the trade show: a poster presentation, maybe but probably not an actual scooter, and definitely no actual battery self-charger demonstration or a scooter that recharges itself, driving around the parking lot for three days, giving kiddies rides. (Does it have a horn thingie they can toot-toot-toot?)

MarkE

Quote from: ramset on June 28, 2014, 06:26:24 AM
Mark
Do I suggest that manufacturers have art departments at their customers disposal ?
Yes
This is a very weak place to start for establishing credibility ,I don't assume anything,I have not spoken with
any owners of tricycle companies or the hundred different factories popping out identical tricycles in China or elsewhere.

I have however done the exact same thing as this to save time in bringing an idea or concept to market, use an existing product to showcase my idea ,people on tight budgets do this all the time .why go and build an entire scooter when your not really showcasing scooters.
And the manufacturers bend over backwards to help with art work and all manner of support.

I am in contact with Aurora ,she will answer reasonable questions and seems quite serious about her product.
I will be calling her again on Monday to see just how serious she really is about marketing.

For clarity "Marketing" in this case.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence .

That is after all "whats for sale" not scooters...

Thx
Chet
Chet:  "The Jetsons" is a copyrighted trademark owned by TBS.  Auroratek did not obtain permission to use that trademark.  The scooter photo is obviously lifted.  Photos like any other published work are copyright by default in the USA.  Jonway IS the manufacturer of the SNAPPY scooters.

As to the self-charging, it is all BS based on bad measurements and lead acid battery effect.  The promotions that the system self recharges are falsehoods.  No one at Auroratek can show you the results of a multiple charge / discharge cycles using their loopy ideas inspired by a slanted room tourist trap in California.

MarkE

Quote from: ramset on June 28, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
Which Part should I "think Rationally" about?
The sneaky megalomaniacal take over of The cheap import Tricycle market?

Not interested ...nor is Aurora ...

those Trikes are Nothing more than a shoehorn into the Psyche of what is now possible, if you think Tricycle manufacturers are the only ones  to have issues with this you need to start thinking a bit more rationally.....



Lets get to first base before we make a mess of this one....

The solar hydrogen tech from Jack Aganyan  was the last time I tried to bring a private conversation to a public forum and was met by inappropriate comments that made such a nasty mess of the thread that I would never be able to invite him to a civil public discussion.

Can you Marketeers please find something else to naw on for a few days... go pull the legs off some spiders or beat the cat....
?
Please....?

We are on the same page here ... you just keep running the same program except in this case there is more than hearsay
and conjecture ..
there is an opportunity here to have some info and contribution directly from the source.

thx
Chet
Chet SHT are completely full of horse manure.  Listen to the interview SHT gave to PESN.  It is beyond the pale.