Finsrud's Perpetuum Mobile

[hartiberlin]

What does this right-turning cycle process have to do with the laws of thermodynamics? I don?t get it.

See it this way:
There is always a magneto-caloric effect happening when a magnet
attracts iron.
The iron magnetic domains are tilted into the direction
of the magnet and the electron spins are tiltled inside the iron
and can only move in one dimension less than before.

This leads to a lower energy state of the spins of the electrons
of the iron ball. This releases heat energy from the iron ball.

Now when the ball has moved on and the iron magnetic domains
and the electron spins again
restructure and shake loose and don?t point into the same direction,
this will need outside heat energy and therefore the ball cools
down and heat will flow from the surrounding environment onto the ball,
as the ball in this moment is colder than the air.

This is the magneto-caloric effect with is also used in
new modern fridges which use very special new
alloy materials which have a very high magneto-caloric effect.

So in my view the Finsrud machine is just a special heat energy machine,
which is just violating the second law, noting more.

Due to the low energy density, ( just to overcome some MilliWatts
frictional losses) you just don?t see the temperature differences.

[hartiberlin]

I have video of that too and if I find time I may post it as well.

Maybe you can post these videos here as Google
takes so much time to validate the uploaded videos.
I really would like to see, how Finsrud starts the machine
and the other experiment with the 12 ring magnets and
the pendulum magnet.

Does he hold the pendulum magnet in his hand or
does he fix the thread holding it onto some kind of stand or
upper rod ?
Did the pendulum really never come to a stillstand when you watched this
experiment ?
How exactly was this setup ?
I think this could be much more important than hos whole machine
he has...

[mikestocks2006]

Please see the following links showing continuous work of Finsrud?s perpetuum mobile:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=553061720631716456&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3078131163857744253&hl=en

Omnibus, thks for posting the links.

Did he ever say what was the longest time the machine ever run continuously, and did it stop by it self or did he stop it?

Also, can you elaborate on the 4th pendulum-magnet arrangement inside the central column?

[hartiberlin]

Here is some info about magnetic cooling:
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20040626/fob6.asp

These cycles also happen with a normal magnet
influencing magnetic attraction into an iron ball material.

[Omnibus]

Stefan, the validity of the explanation you give of the connection between heat and magnetism is not at all evident. You?re talking about some hitherto unknown dependencies whose nature is even more exotic than the violation of the principle of conservation of energy. I?d propose to apply Occam?s razor and try to explain the phenomenon in more acceptable simpler and viable terms.

There is no evidence that a connection between heat and magnetism exists and therefore such connection should not be invoked for explaining any experiment. Otherwise it will be a free for all and anything will go. One can start fantasizing all kind of things presenting them as plausible explanations. This is not the way science works.

Besides, there is no evidence that conventional machines using magnets have their magnets lose their magnetic induction when attracting other parts of the machines (unless extreme heating over the Curie point occurs or magnets undergo mechanical hits or other extraneous demagnetizing effects).