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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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ACG

@MileHigh

I just read the youtube comments on that latest overunity claim video from the user accounts "user2718218" (assuming MileHigh) and "EsotericScience ."
"EsotericScience ." right off the back said you are calculating RMS incorrectly.  But it looks like you have a victory in clearing up the misconceptions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgkCweVpt0

The poster made the mistake of combining divisor 1/2 * 1/2 = 1/2(error).  Correct is 1/4
The poster made the mistake of combining multiplier 0.707 * 0.707 = 0.707(error).  Correct is 0.499

(2000Vpp/2)0.707 x (1Vpp/2)0.707
Claimed
(2000Vpp x 1App)/2 x (.707) = incorrect 707Wrms

Should be
(2000Vpp x 1App)/2^2 x (.707^2) = correct 250Wrms

If you may, ask "EsotericScience .", I use the space dot name because seems to be multiple accounts, are you aware of this misconception and for how long has this misconception been going?  What would be even better is to have the user safely measure on an oscilloscope  the peak volts and amps of a 100W light bulb and compare that to a kill-a-watt meter.  But then again if the user could perform that it shows the power of the mysticism the QUANTUM has over people.

MarkE

Quote from: ACG on May 21, 2014, 02:09:02 PM
@MileHigh

I just read the youtube comments on that latest overunity claim video from the user accounts "user2718218" (assuming MileHigh) and "EsotericScience ."
"EsotericScience ." right off the back said you are calculating RMS incorrectly.  But it looks like you have a victory in clearing up the misconceptions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgkCweVpt0

The poster made the mistake of combining divisor 1/2 * 1/2 = 1/2(error).  Correct is 1/4
The poster made the mistake of combining multiplier 0.707 * 0.707 = 0.707(error).  Correct is 0.499

(2000Vpp/2)0.707 x (1Vpp/2)0.707
Claimed
(2000Vpp x 1App)/2 x (.707) = incorrect 707Wrms

Should be
(2000Vpp x 1App)/2^2 x (.707^2) = correct 250Wrms

If you may, ask "EsotericScience .", I use the space dot name because seems to be multiple accounts, are you aware of this misconception and for how long has this misconception been going?  What would be even better is to have the user safely measure on an oscilloscope  the peak volts and amps of a 100W light bulb and compare that to a kill-a-watt meter.  But then again if the user could perform that it shows the power of the mysticism the QUANTUM has over people.
VPP*IPP = 2*20.5Vrms*2*20.5Irms = 8*VA.

ACG

Quote from: chrisC on May 21, 2014, 11:43:42 AM

Here's that link:  http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-news/393-qeg-morocco-overunity#1677


The world should just wait a while and give him a chance, instead of bad mouthing him from the start. James is no dummy. Too many people on these forums just wants to show that they understand some electricity principles like AC measurements and rms values. Maybe there are deeper things they don't understand?


cheers
chrisC

chrisC, what is not you before I made the comment on the Wait See virus?  I will have to do a scour search.  But for the now in short form.  Existing Running Working Over Unity.  Again, what is it you are waiting for again?

ACG

Quote from: chrisC on May 21, 2014, 01:03:46 PM

Mark:
I really don't think you should intentionally misread him. He was just making sure everyone started with some basis measurement that every scope reads ie peak values; after all not everyone has rms enabled sampling scopes. Chill out. Wait for a while for more solid measurements before pouring hot oil on some hard working soul. As for Hope girl, I can't speak for her - she's probably delusional on some cult goddess.
cheers,
chrisC

Are you referring to any DSO scopes that do not have rms enabled?  And why mention what others may or may not have.  And from where do you derive James was making sure of anything.  There are people who do not own a pair of shoes.  What does this have to do with James?.  Again this Wait See virus has taken hold of you.

ACG

Quote from: PIH123 on May 21, 2014, 01:07:04 PM

Agreed, the world should wait ( Including STOPPING funding ) until such time that something which has been promised or CLAIMED is achieved.


But wait, haven't we already hit that point.

According to James himself in Sterling Allan's video interview with him and HopeForMoreFundingGirl back in April
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJKE5DJRMFQ
at  20:28 – James states that he has already tested it up to 9300 watts  (he corrected himself from 10 Kw, so obviously that is not an estimation of what is possible, but what has been achieved).
He claims 10 more out than in. Not in theory, but already achieved.

And that all it needs is a simple inverter to self loop. He makes it sound like it would take no more than an hour or so to achieve. But they were just so excited to share their discovery...................

Has James put an inverter on his completed build?     9.3 Kw achieved remember.
Haven't Taiwan put an inverter on their completed build?
And the hum-dinger for me:      Have the 3000 plus (claimed at the gofundme site) engineers from China that worked with them in Taiwan (all sorts of visa issues stated on the video) had time to follow up on this? Would be fairly simple for 3000 engineers to get this going if you have already gone to the trouble of international travel in this involvement.

So since claims have been that OU has been achieved, it must be time to start examining those claims and all associated evidence.

People infected with the Wait See virus cannot process the claim of an Existing Running Working Over Unity machine.  Ignoring history is the symptom of the sickness.