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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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MileHigh

Quoting HopeGirl:

QuoteMore data will be submitted from the QEG Morocco build when all present project engineers compile their findings.

Don't count on that ever coming true.  It's arguable that that is just pablum to keep the QEG forum sheeple quiet because now they won't dare ask questions because they have been told that more data will be forthcoming.  There hasn't been even the slightest sense that between 20 and 30 "project engineers" have been working on anything in Morocco.  All that we saw of substance was the one ad-hoc claimed over unity clip that was filmed by the Facebook user "Allegedly Known as Dave."  That's the clip that is clearly and unambiguously under unity and HopeGirl is flogging it as an over unity clip.

We have seen nothing of substance at all from Taiwan and it's been over a month.  Where do the alleged 20 or 30 "engineers" in Morocco go now?  Do they all move to London?  Don't be surprised if you never hear them mentioned again.  The 5000 Chinese engineers?  If they actually rented a large hall in Taiwan and gave a presentation to 5000 Chinese engineers don't you think there would be some record of it and what transpired?

It's a classic move by professional promoters of fake free energy propositions.  Do a failed demo and then claim that there will be more data forthcoming in the future and then beat a hasty retreat and then never deliver the promised follow-up data.  I am not saying that this is what the HopeGirl gang will do, I can't predict the future.  Just don't be surprised if this is how it plays itself out.

In terms of the presentation of the technical data, so far it has been abysmal.  The use of the term "RMS power" is cringe-worthy.  Don't forget we are supposed to be dealing with a bunch of engineers.  Note that James tried different values of capacitance, which would have changed the resonant frequency of the primary tank circuit.  The primary tank is coupled to the secondary and that drives the resistive light bulb load.  With that setup it would be expected that there would be no major changes in the power into the load as he tried different capacitance values.  It's a very weak amateur-grade experiment in my opinion.  He should have tried varying the resistance of the light bulb load and noted the changes in input power and output power.  At least there you are investigating how varying the impedance of the load might affect the power throughput and the efficiency of the QEG.  In addition, he could have measured the resistance of the pair of secondary coils and at least accounted for his resistive losses in the secondary windings when he analyzed the power throughput as he varied the load impedance.

Not that any testing that I am suggesting is going to make much of a difference in the overall scheme of things.  17% efficiency for that funky WITTS-derived "[electrical]->[motor]->[mechanical]->[LC resonator]->[secondary]->[electrical]" transformer seems about right.  There is no quantum anything anywhere associated with that hunk of metal and wire.

MileHigh

Farmhand

They should be in Jail but then so should 95 % of the politicians and high level bankers who con us for billions...

SeaMonkey

Perhaps the rotor is configured wrongly.

As an alternative why not try another
approach?

A couple of possibilities come to mind
which may make some difference.

Permanent magnets may still be a
necessity in order to achieve the
desired mode of operation.

Resonance may be a handicap rather than
a panacea.

MarkE

Quote from: MileHigh on May 25, 2014, 05:24:11 PM
Quoting HopeGirl:

Don't count on that ever coming true.  It's arguable that that is just pablum to keep the QEG forum sheeple quiet because now they won't dare ask questions because they have been told that more data will be forthcoming.  There hasn't been even the slightest sense that between 20 and 30 "project engineers" have been working on anything in Morocco.  All that we saw of substance was the one ad-hoc claimed over unity clip that was filmed by the Facebook user "Allegedly Known as Dave."  That's the clip that is clearly and unambiguously under unity and HopeGirl is flogging it as an over unity clip.

We have seen nothing of substance at all from Taiwan and it's been over a month.  Where do the alleged 20 or 30 "engineers" in Morocco go now?  Do they all move to London?  Don't be surprised if you never hear them mentioned again.  The 5000 Chinese engineers?  If they actually rented a large hall in Taiwan and gave a presentation to 5000 Chinese engineers don't you think there would be some record of it and what transpired?

It's a classic move by professional promoters of fake free energy propositions.  Do a failed demo and then claim that there will be more data forthcoming in the future and then beat a hasty retreat and then never deliver the promised follow-up data.  I am not saying that this is what the HopeGirl gang will do, I can't predict the future.  Just don't be surprised if this is how it plays itself out.

In terms of the presentation of the technical data, so far it has been abysmal.  The use of the term "RMS power" is cringe-worthy.  Don't forget we are supposed to be dealing with a bunch of engineers.  Note that James tried different values of capacitance, which would have changed the resonant frequency of the primary tank circuit.  The primary tank is coupled to the secondary and that drives the resistive light bulb load.  With that setup it would be expected that there would be no major changes in the power into the load as he tried different capacitance values.  It's a very weak amateur-grade experiment in my opinion.  He should have tried varying the resistance of the light bulb load and noted the changes in input power and output power.  At least there you are investigating how varying the impedance of the load might affect the power throughput and the efficiency of the QEG.  In addition, he could have measured the resistance of the pair of secondary coils and at least accounted for his resistive losses in the secondary windings when he analyzed the power throughput as he varied the load impedance.

Not that any testing that I am suggesting is going to make much of a difference in the overall scheme of things.  17% efficiency for that funky WITTS-derived "[electrical]->[motor]->[mechanical]->[LC resonator]->[secondary]->[electrical]" transformer seems about right.  There is no quantum anything anywhere associated with that hunk of metal and wire.

MileHigh
The QEG is very quantum:  The scam artist Hope Girl exudes lots of positive energy so that cash that once belonged to followers pops out of existence in their wallets and pops back into existence in Hope Girl's purse.  The cash is quantized.  One can argue as to whether it is conserved during spooky interactions with her spending.

PCB

@MileHigh
QuoteThe use of the term "RMS power" is cringe-worthy.
The use of the rms power is clearly an attempt to legitimized their original instantaneous peak power numbers they where quoting as a valid way to measure power (that is there are two ways to measure power in his eyes), and which set Jamie off on his quest believing he had an overunity machine. Like you have said before no Engineer would use the term rms power.

QuoteNote that James tried different values of capacitance, which would have changed the resonant frequency of the primary tank circuit.  The primary tank is coupled to the secondary and that drives the resistive light bulb load.  With that setup it would be expected that there would be no major changes in the power into the load as he tried different capacitance values.  It's a very weak amateur-grade experiment in my opinion.  He should have tried varying the resistance of the light bulb load and noted the changes in input power and output power.  At least there you are investigating how varying the impedance of the load might affect the power throughput and the efficiency of the QEG.  In addition, he could have measured the resistance of the pair of secondary coils and at least accounted for his resistive losses in the secondary windings when he analyzed the power throughput as he varied the load impedance.

Right. They seem to have made no effort to properly impedance match the load to the secondary. They did not use the "exciter circuit" in there test that they published. I think they may have only recently understood what the output tank circuit is supposed to do, when he said that the Witts machine applied a constant loaded. I've got to believe that this is not an easy task since everything probably reflects through to the tuning of the primary tank circuit as well. It would be nice to have a couple of high voltage variable caps to do the tuning of the two tank circuits. They should have perhaps put in step down transformer on the output feeding an ac or dc inverter or something so that they could tune to a constant load impedance. i.e get rid of the light bulbs. It would be nice to get ones hands on a QEG to just play with it for a couple of days. I'm sure I could do much better than a pitiful 17%. May be 35 -40%.

To be fair to the process we really need to see a report from last week. I do not know why they published this report. It's a big big fail. Strategically a huge mistake. Why not use the more recent measurements post Dave's posting of his nonsense power boast. Jamie must be completely out of the loop or something!