Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 50 Guests are viewing this topic.

TinselKoala

Note that their scope has both channels set to AC coupled.

This is probably the most misunderstood and misused feature of oscilloscopes. It is about as unfortunate as Franklin's choice of current direction naming. Had the early scope makers called it "Direct Coupling" and "Capacitor Coupling" instead of DC Coupling and AC coupling, we would be a lot better off.

AC coupling moves the Average value of the waveform down, or up, to the channel's baseline setting. This pretty much destroys most math done on the traces, except for Peak-to-Peak, which obviously doesn't change when you offset a waveform. But it means the positive and negative _peak_ values themselves are most likely wrong. For a pure AC waveform that is actually symmetrical about the zero baseline, there isn't any difference. But as soon as there is any asymmetry, setting the scope to "ac coupled" removes information and gives false math computations.

I'm not saying this is a huge effect in the QEG measurements that would affect conclusions very much, but it does show some questionable scoposcopy and possible oscilloscope abuse on the part of the QEG folks.

That oscilloscope has full-on math capability, by the way. It can compute an instantaneous power curve and even the integral of that curve, live on screen. Why aren't these capabilities being used? I really hate to see an oscilloscope that costs more than my house is worth, being used like a toy etch-a-sketch, useful only for its pretty squiggles and its numbers in boxes.



TinselKoala

I think the spikes on the current trace are probably just hash from the drive motor.

MileHigh

TK:

QuoteThat oscilloscope has full-on math capability, by the way. It can compute an instantaneous power curve and even the integral of that curve, live on screen. Why aren't these capabilities being used?

Another great question, and I can only think of the harshest answer: They (James) don't know how to do it.  For every person there is a "competency threshold" for things like this.  I can't go very far with Word or Excel, and I am mad at myself about that sometimes.  I can't "drive" Excel and Word and demonstrate real competency to someone that is proficient, I can only do decent "hunting and pecking" with it, and I often have to plunge into the "help" maze.  There is a chance that that's the case for The QEG world tour with respect to the DSO.

MileHigh

P.S.:  Another clue or inference is that they only reported the cold filament resistance for the light bulb array in their report, essentially useless data.  Why didn't they report the hot filament resistance in their report also, something much more useful?  I know I am being picky, but it suggests a pattern.

pmgr

Quote from: MileHigh on May 30, 2014, 11:41:11 PM
The waveform they are talking about is shown below.
MileHigh

Compare their measured waveform for primary current with my simulated waveform (see http://www.overunity.com/14443/quantum-energy-generator-qeg-open-sourced-by-hopegirl/msg402334/#msg402334 ) for primary current and see the similarities (only look at the shape and forget about the axis numbers and their primary voltage and my secondary current, only look at the primary current in both graphs).

Similar "double" peak behavior. And no, you can't tune the double peak away by tuning the resonance. It will remain in place; but you can move it slightly left left and right relatively within the main peak.

@Milehigh, I am curious at what your explanation is for the "double" peak. Should be pretty easy to guess  ;)

PmgR, Ph.D. EE
================================================
Help stop the persecution of Falun Dafa in China!
Stop organ harvesting from living people in China's labor camps
http://www.faluninfo.net
================================================
Falun Dafa, also known as Falun Gong, is an ancient Chinese
self-cultivation practice, based on the principles of
* Truthfulness * Compassion * Tolerance *
Great for improvement of health and mental well-being!
http://www.falundafa.org
================================================   

MileHigh

PmgR:

Yes indeed, you can see the similarity in your simulation.

I actually don't want to offer up my explanation for the double peak right now.  I honestly think James should explain the double peak, not me.

If someone else explains it, so be it, but I would rather let the "experts" that had an over unity QEG running for 150 hours explain it to us.

MileHigh