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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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fritz

Quote from: MileHigh on June 24, 2014, 12:06:23 PM
If you want to find that out you have to investigate this issue in depth with your scope.  The good news is that in the case of the UK group, I am still going to assume that they have that beautiful four-channel DSO.  That's the one that can give you real-time RMS measurements on each of the four channels, a really nice processing beast of a scope.  I am also assuming that it can export waveforms.
With the DSO there is nothing stopping you from doing that investigation.

Tektronix TDS30x4 has a floppy disk ;-))
It has a vertical precision of about 2%, and the RMS bandwith is limited, as well as the math function.
Calibrating the DC signal path (utility section) might be useful.
BTW its a nice scope but my floppy is broken.

rgds.




MileHigh

For the new UK build, how do you sense the position of the rotor?  The same thing applies to other QEG builds.  From looking at the other waveforms you can deduce the position of the rotor.  But if you are going to be scientific you have to actually measure the position of the rotor to be certain and to make the corelation with your other waveforms.

The answer is to place a "guitar pickup" into the one of the side walls of the QEG.   A guitar pickup consists of a small cylindrical magnet wrapped in a coil of wire next to the vibrating string.  In the case of the QEG, the rotor passing the pick-up represents the vibrating string.  This will generate emf in the coil wrapped around the magnet.  That becomes the "tick" that you can see on your oscilloscope.

A small guitar pickup circuit embedded in the Perspex side walls of the UK QEG should work just fine.  It will generate a tick on the arrival and departure of the rotor.  Note the rotor is quite thick and the small guitar pickup will be perhaps only 5 mm in diameter, so you should have enough resolution to see the arrival and departure of each half of the spinning rotor.

Every single QEG build should have this or something equivalent to this to record the angular position of the rotor relative to all of your other waveforms.  If you can't or won't do this then you are just "playing house."

MileHigh

ACG

Gong update.
The gong count is now at 11.  Yes, 10 + 1.  12 - 1.  Dual vertical line segments in close proximity.

Look at the claim of video uploader dmurphy25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXA2EMInHJg
"The moment that the UK QEG first achieved resonance, an astounding feat since according to the scientific establishment there should not be any power generated since there are no magnets employed in this system"

There you have it.  Out right lie.  I do not attribute this lie to the FTW group.  The youtube account uploader dmurphy25 or whoever wrote the description has just proven ignorance of the subject matter and the desire not to research.  Had uploader perused the many forums including an official qeg be-do.com, without bothering to do a Wiki or read an actual book, that person would be introduced to parametric excitation and variable reluctance motors / generators.  In short, the spinning steel rotor varies the inductance of the steel core.  The coils wrapped around the core are influenced by this change in inductance and respond with magnetic force and current. This is not a case of wood moving passed a wire coil miraculously generating power as some would have you believe.  This is known acknowledge documented proven utilized technology.

No magnets.  Are you kidding me?  Variable reluctance motors are mass produced.  Anyone not familiar with one can just look left or right to see the fan sitting on a desktop.  Oh, it was no magnets!  Disassemble it, manually spin the blades and watch as power is generated on the coil without one single magnet in the assembly.

Here is a few hits when taking the time to bother to do an internet search engine query for variable and switched reluctance generator before claiming pioneering miracles.  Seems the "scientific establishment" has this "astounding feat" covered already.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Motors_and_Generators
- Patent 5705918 : http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5705918.pdf
- Patent http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20100033029
- 72 references review to usages and improvements of switched reluctance generators: http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=25035#.U6m_nijFKSo


MarkE

Quote from: MileHigh on June 24, 2014, 12:54:23 PM
For the new UK build, how do you sense the position of the rotor?  The same thing applies to other QEG builds.  From looking at the other waveforms you can deduce the position of the rotor.  But if you are going to be scientific you have to actually measure the position of the rotor to be certain and to make the corelation with your other waveforms.

The answer is to place a "guitar pickup" into the one of the side walls of the QEG.   A guitar pickup consists of a small cylindrical magnet wrapped in a coil of wire next to the vibrating string.  In the case of the QEG, the rotor passing the pick-up represents the vibrating string.  This will generate emf in the coil wrapped around the magnet.  That becomes the "tick" that you can see on your oscilloscope.

A small guitar pickup circuit embedded in the Perspex side walls of the UK QEG should work just fine.  It will generate a tick on the arrival and departure of the rotor.  Note the rotor is quite thick and the small guitar pickup will be perhaps only 5 mm in diameter, so you should have enough resolution to see the arrival and departure of each half of the spinning rotor.

Every single QEG build should have this or something equivalent to this to record the angular position of the rotor relative to all of your other waveforms.  If you can't or won't do this then you are just "playing house."

MileHigh
Or you can buy a Honeywell variable reluctance sensor complete with threads, drill the hole, thread it, and screw in the sensor.  This is the type of sensor that the hapless John Rohner tried to use but was unable to in farcical his plasma engine.  They have been used for a long time in machinery, typically with a gear that has one tooth removed to indicate the zero position.

PCB

Larry @ be-do.com says:
QuoteI recommend others do as I did - contribute a bit to the crowd funding projects and wait for the technical details to be worked out. This is an excellent time to get your team together and get your sources of materials worked out as you have been doing. The QEG technology is advancing rapidly, and I am confident that it won't be much longer until we have a set of plans and procedures nailed down.

For those who do not frequent be-do, there is a current discussion that the QEG could be dangerous, as it could open a gate through which energy might flow uncontrolled from the aether and destroy the world. I think they might be onto something here. Just to be on the safe side I think they should put an immediate stop to things right now before its too late and we all fry.