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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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PCB

Quote from: MileHigh on July 10, 2014, 01:04:22 AM
I watched the two clips and my Spidey senses are tingling.

There is another test that I never mentioned because it is "too obvious" so I filtered it out in my head as not worth mentioning:

Measure what happens in the primary tank circuit as you vary the power dissipation in the load connected to the secondary.

Attach load A of 10 watts and measure primary peak-to-peak voltage and the voltage-current phase angle.  Measure motor input power.
Attach load B of 20 watts and measure primary peak-to-peak voltage and the voltage-current phase angle.  Measure motor input power.
Attach load C of 50 watts and measure primary peak-to-peak voltage and the voltage-current phase angle.  Measure motor input power.

For some experimenters it will be a challenge to determine the resistance of the load to draw 10 watts.  A bit of experimenting and you should be able to figure that out.

What happens as you increase the output power in regular steps?  Get to know your QEG.

If some builders did this it would be a giant leap forward in free energy research and open up new avenues of discovery that have never been seen before.  Synergistic modalities.

BeliefBoy
Absolutely right, could suggestion. I posted early on be-do that post the more waveforms, as has vgrey.

picowatt

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 10, 2014, 12:00:49 AM
I don't recall seeing them using the coil and spark gap.
But as far as the unit in PA goes... as I have shown, in the interview with Sterling on PESN he tells the truth (sort of) about the PA Prototype.
1. It was never "run" for 150 hours. It was _driven_ for perhaps 1.5 hours, many times, in the "resonance mode", and James estimates a total of about 150 hours being driven in that mode.
2. The _peak_ power measured by clampon meters, DMMs and the oscilloscope was a bit over 9 kW and the _average_ was "probably" between 4 and 5 kW. Although he did not say so specifically I think we know that he is referring once again to peak-to-peak readings multiplied together and not the true "average power" which is Vrms x Irms -- just as they have done with all subsequent "OU in VARs" claims.
3. No... James specifically says the unit never actually ran itself.  He complains about building it in his barn, not having the necessary inverter, etc etc but after all the hemming and hawing is done the fact remains: they "released" this device to the "public" based on the "resonance" and misinterpretation of their measurements and the device _never_ in fact produced any OU or ran itself.

So in order to show everyone that the PA prototype does what _he_ claimed, all he need do is show the Resonance and some bulbs lighting up, and some squiggly colored lines on the scope. He really never claimed anything more than that.

When HypeGirl said the thing "works" and had "run for 150 hours" she was deliberately trying to give the impression that she meant "self running while producing extra power output" which is the usual meaning of "working" and "running" in our community. Isn't it? However this was clearly not the case and James himself told us so in the interview. Nothing that has transpired since has trumped that set of statements from JR. And the problems that caused them to be unable to make the PA Prototype "work" remain: the thing has never made any OU and never will, so all efforts trying to make it self-run are futile.

TK,

I realize Jamie never said he had accomplished a self-runner, but did he not say in the PESN interview that he had connected loads to the output (a heater or the like) that supposedly drew more than the input to the motor?  I'll try to find the time to listen to it again more closely.

If all the claims are in error because of his misuse of pk to pk vs. rms values, then he should just own up to that.

PW

Farmhand

Quote from: PCB on July 10, 2014, 12:03:26 AM
The Florida QEG folks just posted these two videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW2bCM90Yms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSqXRVuXpFY

From: http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-general-topics/475-myths-about-reactive-power-in-resonant-circuits

It interesting, he passes the output from the primary through a transformer, which is akin the secondary is doing of coarse, to convert VARs to Watts. He references this paper:

http://be-do.com/media/kunena/attachments/772/DispellingMythsAboutReactivePowerinResonantCircuits.pdf

Bolt: You might find the above interesting. I have several large 3 phase motors, around 20 HP. I also have one as a generator set (25 HP 3ph motor that drives a 15 KW gen that outputs at 120 Hz). What can I do with these? Would you consider posting a pdf of your circuit and setup info.

Thanks for posting these video clips, it is appreciated. Now when I watched the two video's my first thought was what was the difference in the input power between the two runs and what was the output on both runs if any.

These video's show nothing to prove anything.

Then I listened  ;), and the sound is different in the two clips, the second clip sounded like the prime mover was more loaded,
I'ma gunna say that the input was likely more during the second clip. And at no stage was the output more than the input and
that no matter how they convert VAR's to VA the result will be that they will convert accumulated oscillating power originally from
the supply into real power in a load but the total energy in compared to total energy out over a period of ie. 1 hour
will be unity, and when losses are factored in the arrangement will show well under unity.

If it was as easy as they make out then people would be doing it already for years.

No cheesburgers for the QEG'ers that is for certain. Ikea meatballs for them.  ;D

haha, How many horses have they flogged to death now ? Are they planning to wail on another one, or is that it all done but for
the payed consultations. with the Con-non-engineering Artist.

picowatt

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 10, 2014, 12:41:58 AM
In the image below you see a system that has a high degree of reactive power circulating in the resonant "primary" on the left. It is much greater than the input power drawn as DC from the battery. This reactive power is "transformed" by the air-core transformer whose secondary is now powering a real resistive lightbulb load, on the right. This system is doing exactly the same thing electronically that the QEG device is doing electromechanically, and it's doing it a lot more quietly and a lot cheaper.

I can haz cheezburger now?

TK,

Nobody trusts you around cheese anymore...

PW

ACG

Someone ask Polarisz Tesla to compare apples to apples.
* Measure the voltage and current of the lamp bank placed in the Primary coil circuit.
* Measure the voltage and current of the lamp bank connected to this transformer.

As is, they are comparing a no load reactive condition to a loaded resistive condition.  Does not make any sense.  It would have and can still take the whole of 2 minutes to do this comparison.  Would be nice to have actually taken MEASUREMENTS to.  Seems like comparison was not even the goal.  More of an effort to give validation to one of the be-do pdf files as mentioned.