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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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chrisC

Quote from: gotoluc on April 13, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
What kind of fun would be for him ;D

Seriously, I don't mind since they have helped me in many ways over the years. They are here for a reason and we should allow them to voice their opinions without objections. If you don't agree we shouldn't bother arguing to make our point. We should use or time to experiment to try to prove what we believe to be.

Believe it or not, they want the same thing you want!... they just won't believe it until they see all the tests done right and only then they will build it for them self for final proof.

Luc


Well said Luc. Some people just need others to know Physics is never wrong but don't know all the Physics that needs to be known and others have mile high egos and not much more. Hopefully we'll all learn something in the end.


chrisC


MileHigh

ChrisC:

You allege that I write crap?  Please go ahead and tell me what you think is crap.

We will see if you will make a comment in five and a half weeks after many replicators will have had a chance to build and test the thing, as per the actual open-source downloaded plans.

MileHigh

woopy

Hi all

Just tried something after Gyula information on the Russian(Lanarev )  paper from 1934 , where a crossing alu plate. decreases the inductance of 2 facing coil.

And it seems that by variation of inductance, Increasing it or decreasing it, generate some electricity

And  , by doing it, also seems not to submitted to Lenz    perhaps    ???

My 2 cents

http://youtu.be/gukCFm81K7k

laurent

Jimboot

Quote from: gotoluc on April 13, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
What kind of fun would be for him ;D

Seriously, I don't mind since they have helped me in many ways over the years. They are here for a reason and we should allow them to voice their opinions without objections. If you don't agree we shouldn't bother arguing to make our point. We should use or time to experiment to try to prove what we believe to be.

Believe it or not, they want the same thing you want!... they just won't believe it until they see all the tests done right and only then they will build it for them self for final proof.

Luc
Nicely put Luc,
My spideysense is starting to tingle though. Your own experiments have shown much more data on the purported effect than FTW has. Based on Mark's assessment they have collected nearly 100k from crowd sourcing. Still no I/O data as promised. I wish you every success with your experiments.

MileHigh

The unfortunate thing is that the QEG group is demonstrating the same pattern that we have all seen many times over.  They clearly and unambiguously claimed that they have a free energy machine.  Then all of a sudden it's "in development" and replicators are welcome to tweak the design and adapt it for themselves.  It's the Internet age, you don't have to physically travel somewhere to demonstrate your concepts.  You can use Skype and email.  The people promoting this idea seem to have limited technical abilities.  Let's assume the majority of the replication teams will be amateurs, and the replicators will go down dozens or hundreds of blind alleyways and do crazy nonsensical variations because they don't know what they are doing.

The system has been claimed to work, outputting 4 kilowatts. But no details were provided about the output voltage and current of the device itself, what transformer or transformers they may have used, and what the actual 4 kilowatt load was.  How come this was not described and the guy that built it didn't say something like, "We used a 10 KVA 10:1 step-down transformer, and built a metal frame to hold 40 100-watt light bulbs, etc, etc.  How come there is no picture of this apparatus?  It's a lot of work to make a load bank to dissipate 4 kilowatts.  Hey, for all I know they could have used toasters and make toast while they ran their test.  I would like to see a picture of of the toasters and all of the data.

The point being that if you are going to actually claim you ran this setup let's say with a motor that drew 500 watts, and you output 4 kilowatts into a load, the first question you should be asking the QEG people is for full details on this test including measurements, video clips, pictures, a description of what was done, the actual data, and so on.

I don't hear any of you guys asking for this data.  It's like you have put on your special tunnel vision blinders and will simply expect it to work - like magic.  You are here to research free energy and you are building things all the time, and yet no one that I am aware of is asking for the hard core details about the 4 kilowatt test.

On one hand, everything about this one seems groovy and flexible and people are free to try different configurations, and yet when you try to replicate other free energy propositions that fail, you are told that you didn't do the replication exactly.  If you didn't use the exact same wire with precisely the same number of turns on the exact same core, then it won't work and you can't blame the inventor, only yourself for failing to replicate.

Those are some of the pieces to the puzzle.  The problem for many of you is that you have seen this puzzle before.  All of the signs in the latest puzzle point in the direction that says it's won't work, because you have seen it all before.  You have seen dozens and dozens of "coil resonance plays" and they never work.  Resonance is not magic and only represents the storage of energy put into the resonating system from a source, like a battery.  Resonance is not and will never be an innate source of energy itself.  You have all been through this over and over and over.

So from my perspective, I am just waiting for the tears to start falling.  Lots of groups will be burnt out, dismayed, and unhappy after spending a few hundred hours and getting nowhere.  Reality is going to hurt them and it's going to bite HopeGirl in the ass.

You guys can do whatever you want and make some tests and I may comment in the genuine spirit of trying to help you.  Meanwhile, the impending disaster of irate groups of replicators, many of them presumably not familiar with the whole free energy forums and all that, they are going to be one group of pissed off people that want results.

This appears to be nothing more than exciting coils into resonance.  The coils are just resonating and waiting for either more energy to be put into them from an outside source, or they will be drained of energy and the resonant amplitude will decrease.  That's all there is to it, there is no magic anywhere, it's nothing more than basic rudimentary electronics.

Let's all watch the show.

MileHigh