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Overunity Machines Forum



Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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markdansie

Having met Timothy Thrapp in person, and as well as having feedback from other engineers and investors who have also met him over many years, I can assure you that none of us ever saw or was convinced in anyway he had any overunity devices. The generator has or never will be demonstrated to have "overunity or excess power"
It is therefore a flawed assumption to think think they could replicate or base their technology on a flawed design.

I admire the efforts of the people in Taiwan, I do not approve of claims of overunity...especially when it comes to raising funds that have never been demonstrated to work. There is a difference between speculating and claiming.

I have seen many efforts like this over many years from magnetic motors, self running HHO gensets, water powered vehicles,Papp engines, gravity devices and in some cases people devoting over 20 years of their lives. None ever succeeded.
I have no beef with them going ahead doing what they enjoy doing, I wish them every success, but no claims, words or arguments will ever convince or the greater community they have anything of any value unless it can be demonstrated, not speculated about in acceptable manner.
http://revolution-green.com/quantum-energy-generator-taiwan-update/


Kind Regards
Mark

chrisC

Quote from: markdansie on April 14, 2014, 12:37:51 AM
Having met Timothy Thrapp in person, and as well as having feedback from other engineers and investors who have over many years, I can assure you that none of us ever saw or was convinced in anyway he had any overunity devices. The generator has or never will be demonstrated to have "overunity or excess power"
I admire the efforts of the people in Taiwan, I do not approve of claims of overunity...especially when it comes to raising funds.
I have seen many efforts like this over many years from magnetic motors, self running HHO gensets, water powered vehicles,Papp engines, gravity devices and in some cases people devoting over 20 years of their lives. None ever succeeded.
I have no beef with them going ahead doing what they enjoy doing, I wish them every success, but no claims, words or arguments will ever convince or the greater community they have anything of any value unless it can be demonstrated, not speculated about in acceptable manner.
http://revolution-green.com/quantum-energy-generator-taiwan-update/


Kind Regards
Mark


Don't be so sure Mark. I admire your persistence in verifying details and you should. Let's just sit tight and wait. If people can't understand this electro-mechanical resonance is different from their grandfather's way of pursuing O.U via magnets and other torroids, then they just need to be patient and wait. The core construction is not something that can be done by normal builders but people with specialized equipment maybe able to construct it once further improvement details are available.
cheers
chrisC

Farmhand

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 13, 2014, 11:37:46 AM

Farmhand,


The inductances have only a part in the whole machine. What they are saying is the high voltage comes from the Steel as a piezo type effect. Don't know if I agree but that is the source of the voltage. The coils then boost that voltage. The switching of the inductances only is used to route the voltage after it is picked up and is a guide for magnetic forces after the process starts.. Of course after the magnetics start shortcutting and cutting the coil it runs in resonance. The extra generation is from the magnetic field being channeled into the rotor then going into various portions of the toroid. But I will have to look at it way more closely to understand the basic function.


This is very familiar isn't it Farmhand? The only difference I can see from this and my angle is that they don't have a central Coil on the rotor to pull off Current from the magnetic portion of the device that travels along the rotor. Oh wait the system I was looking at uses two phases and is actively driven from a magneto. With the prime mover already integrated into this system you won't have switching problems like they are having.

Here's what I think, It won't hurt to build such an arrangement somewhat smaller but make it so that it can be used as an isolation transformer or can be overwound for a step down converter or even used as a regular motor or generator if the QEG fails to work.

I already have made one and partially made another toroidal transformer with coils wound on the four quadrants, I made mine with good core insulation and wound the thousands of turns of 0.5 mm wire neatly by hand with home made saturated bees wax paper in between each layer, with mine I wound a pair of 1 mm wire coils for one layer right on the core first so I can use it as an inverter transformer.

Anyway the point is that such a core and coil set would still be useful to have.

It took me a long time to make them because I did it all by hand, I used induction motor laminated steel from a 8.5 kw motor and cut the pole projections off the individual core plates using metal shears (which did a neat job) but I only used about 20 mm of plates when I should have used about 100 mm then the core would be 100 mm wide and 30 mm radial depth, which would work better for a motor or generator because a wider rotor can be used but not so important for a transformer or converter.

It could probably take the high voltage because of how I made it.

If I used the one I have I could get the spacer blocks to be only about 10 to 15 mm between the coils with a rotor and block width of 40 mm or so it would have an overall core diameter of 220 mm, the smaller the device though, the lower the inductance and that would require a higher frequency/rotor speed.

If I seen any reason to believe it works I would build one. But there is no evidence, only claims or promises or observations whatever they be referred to as. There is reference to two Tesla patents but no Technical explanation as to how these Tesla devices produced OU (which they didn't and were never claimed to by Tesla) or any explanation to even how the Tesla patents actually relate to the device.

Consider this, even if a person was to build a good replication and showed hours of video of it not working and thousands of words explaining what has been done and tried and that it still does not work, it would make little difference to anything.

Cheers


vidbid

Quote from: MileHigh on April 14, 2014, 12:26:55 AM..concensus on this forum..

When did technology start regarding people's opinions?

Quote from: MileHigh on April 14, 2014, 12:26:55 AM..have never demonstrated anything credible.

Would that include the two demonstrations of the WITTS generator in videos they produced and of which the current QEG's design is based?

Regards,

VIDBID

Jimboot

Hi guys,
can I request we take a chill pill here with the name calling on both sides of the fence. Text arguments lead nowhere. Let's stick to data, theories, experiments.
For my part I've seen no real data from FTW. Why? I have no idea but they have lost me.
The work that Luc, Laurent & Gyula are doing though is fascinating and with data. TK & MH - any chance you blokes can be a little less abrasive? I know it must be bloody frustrating when you see us preschoolers in the field make ridiculous assumptions at times but Gyula, Mags et al are able to point out our flaws with a little less ridicule :)
Guys on the FTW side of the fence any chance you can be a little less effusive & look at how Luc handles himself. It will make this thread a lot easier to read.
Thanks