Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[minnie]

   Joel,
        loads of folk cite the Wright bros. It was the petrol engine that was the key!
   The amazing part was that they built their own engine.
      Look at Aerial Steam Carriage on wiki for a bit of history.
   The QEG. is just a second-hand fraud instigated by Witts or something like
   that.
           John

     joel.  If you want a good laugh do a search for WITTS ministries.

[TinselKoala]

The Wright brothers also NEVER claimed to have what they did NOT in fact have. This seems to be what Joel is missing about this QEG affair.

For Joel's benefit:

The Robitaille clan claimed over and over to have a WORKING QEG that would run itself, with extra power left over to run a home, that all you needed to do was to run it up to resonance and it would run itself, and it could even be started with a crank mechanism. They claimed that you could buy the core from Torelco, assemble the system according to their "open source" plans, and it would work as they claimed, running itself and powering homes, etc. See how they are STILL making these claims, which are not true:
http://be-do.com/index.php/en/faq?catid=0

NONE OF THIS WAS, or is now, TRUE. Yet they made these claims on several different crowdfunding sites in order to get hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations, and they are still making the claims, and as you can see from their recent videos, they are flailing and flopping around trying to convince people even now, with the flimsiest, most implausible excuses imaginable for not being able to demonstrate what they actually DO NOT HAVE. No such shenanigans ever came from the Wright brothers.

This is fundamentally dishonest, no matter whether the QEG could potentially be made to work as they claimed or not. (And of course it cannot, as any _real_ electrical engineer or physicist familiar with the subject matter can tell you.) In other words, it's a scam. Just as much as selling desert property with the claim that a shallow well will provide unlimited water. Sure, water exists, the land exists, but the SCAM consists in making FALSE CLAIMS about them, and taking money from people who believe the FALSE CLAIMS, who would not otherwise give money.


BTW: the Wright brothers built and flew man-carrying kites, and even soared for long durations in gliders, before they basically took their best glider design and hung an engine on it to make the first operational airplane. They invented the Wind Tunnel and did many many hours of wind-tunnel testing to perfect aerodynamic control systems, and they spent many hours learning how to control the kites and gliders before they made their first powered airplane flights. They proceeded according to the Scientific Method, they had working examples of powered heavier-than-air flight in the form of birds and insects, and they _never_ made claims that they could not back up with actual demonstrations. Whether or not ignorant journalists or even "scientists" believed them at first is actually irrelevant, since they could, and did, demonstrate the truth of their claims when asked to do so.

We will _NEVER_ see an actual demonstration of a self-running QEG powering a home or even being started with a crank mechanism! From the Robitailles or from anyone else! And if there is a single person anywhere that actually believes in the famous WITTS demonstration.... I feel sorry for that person, and I wonder why that person hasn't sold everything and given all the money to Timmy Thrapp to buy one.

(From the looks of things, the Robitailles will soon have a really good excuse for not showing a working QEG -- James looks like he's on Death's doorstep right now.)

[joel321]

Joel,
        loads of folk cite the Wright bros. It was the petrol engine that was the key!
   The amazing part was that they built their own engine.
      Look at Aerial Steam Carriage on wiki for a bit of history.

Yeah I see your point. I also stumbled on Gustave Whitehead. But it's the same situation today as it was for the Wright bros (or the rest back then) – they seek to fund their inventions to make it big. The struggle for the Write brothers took a long time to get noticed by inventors. But, by doing the math, we could say that there where other people that had better engines and aircraft's back then but maybe they where discouraged to the point that they gave up. The Wright brothers fought and fought and fought to get noticed. Watch the video. They had to almost beg to get noticed, and when someone did, they became the undying fame.

Do you know if they where fighting to win a monetary price back then or did they just do it because they just wanted to help the evolution of civilization?

I have a feeling it was due from human emotion recipes 1) curiosity – we humans are natural curious people. e.g. we want to live in other planets. 2) attention – we want to be noticed and win a gold medal e.g. sport. 3) money – we want to be rich to stop struggling to survive e.g. poverty/middle class. Etc. But after we understand these humans emotions we can easily do the math of the intentions of people. Math is easy to understand, is the psychological part that is the most complicated all the way down to the conscious mind. What are you thinking from what other brain is thinking? What is the purpose of your thinking? Is it that you re following a social group status or that you are thinking past the social norm, for example, chocolate cookies are the best for all the people instead of almond cookies.

OK ok, I'm getting ahead of myself, back to "human emotion recipes". We have to understand what is the biggest emotion at present time? At the top is curiosity!!!! we all love to learn and we will continue to love till we die. Another at the top is reproducing pleasures since that is what drives us to keep on multiplying. Those are example of what the flesh desires. What about the virtual world? Number 1 is money. 99.9% of the people if they where to find $10,000 US dollars next to a homeless person, most likely than not would take it home with them than to give it to them homeless person. SO what is the purpose of your neighbor? To help you out or to take advantage of you? And the answer is that you are thinking that everyone is out to get you, and it is true, because everyone is trying to take your money. Why? Because that is how the civilized world teaches us = dog-eat-dog-world, money-makes-the-world-go-round. But among all of that, there are truly people that want to help unconditionally. This comes from the side of the mother genetic code where the mother would give her life for her kids and also one of the reasons why a lot of females get taken advantage of in the flesh, emotional, and monetary.

LOL you see how things get complicated! BUT they are not as complicated after you understand these things because this is part of human "curiosity" of every human being. We just need to understand them in order to laugh at those that deserved to be laughed at. Punish those that deserve to be punished. Praise those that deserve to be praised.  If you can understand all of what I said, in my own personal opinion, the QEG is like the wright brothers struggling to get noticed, but now that I see that they got attention, I will agree with you that they need more evidence to see the Wright bros flight. But the movement, I'm 100% sure, has motivated thousandths of others. Hope to see QEG 2.0 to 10.0.

[joel321]

NONE OF THIS WAS, or is now, TRUE. Yet they made these claims on several different crowdfunding sites in order to get hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations, and they are still making the claims, and as you can see from their recent videos, they are flailing and flopping around trying to convince people even now, with the flimsiest, most implausible excuses imaginable for not being able to demonstrate what they actually DO NOT HAVE. No such shenanigans ever came from the Wright brothers.

Yeah I think I'm beginning to understand. I kind of had a feeling that that was the case but I decided to not go against it to push it on to see where it went. But I think it has been pushed far enough to not see the real truth going on here. Case in point, although Hopegirl may have found "enlightenment" by this recent post https://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/disenchanted-with-the-new-age-movement-by-hopegirl/ , it does show the immaturity of a person whom fell with the wrong crowd "new age" whatever that means.

From my psychological understanding since the beginning was that she was a "mother figure" and the social butterfly and NOT the brains of the operation. The smart guy (who actually built the thing) I'm sure had no help from WITTS. He was/is trying to support the happy butterfly. But the BEAUTY about a positive and negative is that they can create something that could make them grow further. ALL IT TAKES IS REFLECTING! But yeah, I agree the QEG seems now that there needs a ONCE AND FOR ALL Wright brothers evidence. It kind of looks like they piggybacked the idea somehow...may have been for good intentions, but good intentions only go so far. But I can't forget the mother figure example because when I talk to my mom or when I talk to my GF, they can't understand a word I'm saying...BUTTT they want me to be happy and live to 1000 years old. They would rather give me their food so that I can eat...what is the math on that? They may not understand how the universe works but they want me to survive and would do their best for me to get there? Explain that math?

But yeah, I see the QEG now to be honest.

BTW: the Wright brothers built and flew man-carrying kites, and even soared for long durations in gliders, before they basically took their best glider design and hung an engine on it to make the first operational airplane. They invented the Wind Tunnel and did many many hours of wind-tunnel testing to perfect aerodynamic control systems, and they spent many hours learning how to control the kites and gliders before they made their first powered airplane flights. They proceeded according to the Scientific Method, they had working examples of powered heavier-than-air flight in the form of birds and insects, and they _never_ made claims that they could not back up with actual demonstrations. Whether or not ignorant journalists or even "scientists" believed them at first is actually irrelevant, since they could, and did, demonstrate the truth of their claims when asked to do so.

I agree, but you have to understand that the Wright brothers had to learned from someone else. They did not come out of the birth canal and then came up with all of this ideas. They learned these new ideas and where the "winners" in a race. Just like today in the year 2015, there are races to get the novel prize and to understand dark matter and prove it. If you want to give the credit for the first flying aircraft, get in touch with an alien or give the fabric of space a gold medal for being able to hold galaxies in mid dark energy ...oooh what about the birds? What bird was the first bird to fly? Ohhh, but what about the atom that decided that wanted to fly? But there are shyt load of atoms that are flying...

We will _NEVER_ see an actual demonstration of a self-running QEG powering a home or even being started with a crank mechanism! From the Robitailles or from anyone else!

Hey man, you cannot predict the future. Maybe this world will experience a great extinction to get rid of all of this confusion and sinners of GREEED and new people will reborn (what about parallel universes?). There are things that I stumble every day that make me see little puzzles of what's to come. Take for example this here...http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhqahh_laser-beam-powered-propulsion-spacecraft-lightcraft_tech now if you think about the probabilities, there is this very technology already happening. One thing I know is that "NEVER" only exists about 80 years old expectancy...or wait, how old is the word never? my point is because you say NEVER, does not mean it dies the minute you say it. I think it maybe a possibility that is was a great invention that a great thinker died and not continued to make it evolve and then some one got a hold of that idea and is holding it hostage...that idea may be great but the person holding it hostage is not allowing other great minds to get a hold of it and make it grow...heck, look at the hermit crab...it's like a lobster with no tail exoskeleton, yet it's all over the place. Not very important as the human race, but the thing is there. If you where the first person to be born in the world, how many NEVER'S would you have said?

What is your definition of a QEG? The sun is what? The earth is what? The galaxy is what? The human body is what? An electron is what? Ohh wait wait, let me ask you this, the money is what?

[MileHigh]

Well, thanks to Naima and Jamie Morocco is happening!  Really crispy!

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/oct/26/morocco-poised-to-become-a-solar-superpower-with-launch-of-desert-mega-project

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/worlds-largest-solar-power-plant-ouarzazate-morocco/