Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[MileHigh]

MarkE:

Thanks for the comments and for the engineering issue it's about the same thing in Canada.

Farmhand:

Also great comments.   I will go back a few weeks and briefly discuss the children's swing "simulation" because it looks like the whole business with the QEG excitation with the rotor is essentially the same thing.  Note it's also the same situation when you have a pick-up coil on a pulse motor that is connected to a capacitor and it is being stimulated at the resonant frequency by the passing rotor magnets.

In all three cases you have a synchronous stimulation of an LC resonator where the stimulus "hits" the LC resonator for a brief time only and then it is completely decoupled from the resonator.  So for most of the time the resonator is free to oscillate without being disturbed or seeing the stimulus as a "back load."   By "back load" I mean that the LC resonator doesn't start discharging back through the stimulus because it's voltage is higher than the stimulus voltage.

Here is the circuit (Rev 0!) in very general terms:

The heart of the circuit is say a 1:100 transformer.  So we will view the transformer as a step-up transformer.  However, that's only for when you apply the stimulus.

The real purpose of the transformer is to act as an inductor, the "L" in the LC resonator.   The higher-turns secondary is the "L."   So as you can imagine you can connect a capacitor across the secondary and create your LC resonator.  All that you have to do is connect a charged capacitor to the secondary and capture the oscillations on your scope to precisely measure the LC resonant frequency.

The implementation of the temporary stimulus, "the swing push" is very easy and very familiar.  Let's assume that you have a 5-volt battery.   So you connect the +5 volts to the top of the primary.  You connect the bottom of the primary to the drain of your MOSFET.  The source of the MOSFET is connected to the battery ground.

With this very simple setup, when the MOSFET is on, you are pumping power into the LC resonator.  When the MOSFET is off, it's an open-circuit.  Therefore the primary "disappears" from the perspective of the LC resonator, it is not seen as a load where the secondary is trying to drive the primary.

Needless to say, if the secondary is open-circuit and you switch on the MOSFET, you will see 500 volts across the secondary.

The suggestion would be to have an LCR circuit on the secondary for initial testing.   The resistor would be across the secondary, i.e.; in parallel with the capacitor.

If you change the value of the R, it's like you're changing the "thickness" of the air using the child on a swing analogy.  The amount of time the MOSFET is on is analogous to the amount of time you push on the swing.

So if you pulse on the MOSFET at the resonant frequency you can play with the pulse length and the resistance, etc, etc.  The issue of the total wire resistance in comparison with how heavily or lightly you load the LC resonator gives insight into how the LC resonator will react, and so on.

So as you can see, this simple setup allows you to explore an LCR resonator below, at, and above the resonance frequency.  And it gives you a simulator for the child on a swing, a pulse motor pickup coil in resonance, or the QEG generator.

The key thing is to completely decouple from the LCR resonator after you apply your stimulus pulse.  The MOSFET going open-circuit when it is switched off does that for you.

This may end up being the sobering reality for the Fix the World/QEG people.  They are just playing with an LCR circuit and believing (or faking) in something that is simply not there.

Here is one more way to look at this whole setup:  Completely forget that there is a transformer.  All that you care about is the LCR resonator.  When the MOSFET switches on, the LCR resonator "experiences" an EMF injection of energy.   Can you see that?   In a synchronous fashion, the inductor in the LCR resonator will produce a "jolt of juice" seemingly from nowhere.  The inductor doesn't "know" that it's coupled to another inductor.  The only thing it "knows" is that an EMF source "appears" like a ghost and then disappears.

The one note of caution would be that if you pulse the setup at resonance with no resistor across the secondary, then you only have the wire resistance to deal with.  There is a possibility that the resonance voltage will get very high and explode your capacitors or damage your scope or something.  So the recommendation would be to start with a relatively low value load resistor to feel things out first.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Farmhand:

Naturally the easiest way to do this would be to simulate it.  But it could be a fun build also.

One thing that's a gray area for me is the transformer turns ratio.   In my Rev 0 I am sort of "over designing" the transformer turns ratio.

The logic is this:  With a "standard" pulse with and no resistor, the wire resistance itself will keep the resonator voltage below 500 volts.   So in other words, you are pulsing with an EMF pulse that has a theoretical value of 500 volts, but that never happens.   Supposing for the sake of argument the resonant oscillation peaks at 300 volts.  (I am intentionally simplifying and not worrying about peak-to-peak voltages)

Now supposing you change the transformer from a 1:100 transformer to a 1:10 transformer and you pulse with a "standard" pulse width.  Will the LC + wire resistance resonator also go to a peak voltage of 300 volts?  It might, and it might even go higher.  The reason for that is that chances are the 1:10 transformer will have a lower inherent wire resistance on the secondary.  So what if you add a series resistance to compensate and make it the same as the 1:100 transformer, what happens then?

Anyway, it's hopefully an interesting investigation even if it's just a thought experiment.  Doing pSpice simulations would be fun though.

But just to emphasize the point, this whole QEG thing could just be a mirage where a silly mistake is made where they think the observed resonant voltage will also be able to magically drive a 10 kilowatt load at the same voltage or something like that.  Or it's all nefarious.

MileHigh

[F_Brown]

Farmhand,

Yes, oscillating power would be a better term.


Miles Higher,

Well, in my sim at the peak voltage level the cap stores 0.5 * 29,000^2 * 10e-9 = 4.2 joules.  That is perhaps the best indication of what we are dealing with here.  The result is the same for what the inductor stores at peak current:  0.5 * 0.75^2 * 15 = 4.2 joules.

The the 11kw of oscillating power is really an illusion, and falls like a rock when a load is added.  I evolved the model to include a load, see attached image.

With a 1 giga-ohm load the oscillating power results are pretty close to the results just quoted for the model without a load.  Additionally, about 17 watts are being drawn from the current source driving the tank circuit, of which 16.4 watts are being dissipated in the primary and 0.5 watts in the load.  Most of the rest of the dissipation is in the cap with a tiny bit in the secondary winding.  At the same drive level and a 1 mega-ohm load,  the "oscillating power" drops to 121 watts, with 968Vpk and 25mApk.  The input power drawn from the current source drops to 0.59 W.     

So here we have 17 watts of input creating the illusion of 11kw of power, and 0.6 watts of input creating the illusion of 121 watts of power.  With the 1 mega-ohm load and 0.59W of input power 0.57 watts are delivered to the load for an efficiency of 96.6 percent.  That about typical of good laminated transformer efficiency, somewhere in the mid 90's, and I think the design of the QEG will have a good coupling coefficient between the primary and the secondary.  So, if the system is running 40 percent efficiency either the parametric drive works poorly or there is something wrong somewhere.   There is the efficiency of the drive motor to consider.  The QEG could be driven by some other power source such as a water wheel or a windmill.

James did say in the PESN interview he was driving a resistive load from the secondary of the QEG, although I've seen so many of these things over the years that I recognize how they go:  Big claims, fragmented videos, and erroneous schematics.  It's so recurrent it's cliche.

[MileHigh]

F_Brown,

Great work!  You are making the picture of what may be transpiring more tangible with your simulations.  It's quite a "shocker" to see how "illusory power" is actually just a small amount of energy circulating in the LC resonator.  It's also extremely interesting to see how much real power is being burned off in the circuit to sustain the resonant amplitude and "sustain the illusion."  Naturally that small amount of energy stored in the LC resonator will get "snuffed out" quite quickly when you connect an external load.

One thought for your consideration is to check your prose for "energy" vs. "power."  For some reason the mind uses the term "energy" as a default when you are preoccupied with describing the process of what you are doing.  I have been writing about electronics for years and I still screw up and use "energy" when I should use "power" or vice-versa.  It's strange in the sense that even with the terms mixed up what you write is perfectly comprehensible by the readers.  But it is still worth going back and trying to get it right as a matter of principle.

Thanks again for the simulation results.

MileHigh

[F_Brown]

That's sharp of you to notice my misuse of word energy when I meant power.  I did notice my mind flip-flopping a few times deciding which term to use.  I do like to avoid repetition when possible.  Thanks for mentioning it.     

I lowered the value of the load resistor in the model to 505k and upped the drive to 50mApk @ 411 Hz .  The result is 775.7 watts drawn as input power and 762.4 watts delivered to the load for an efficiency of 98.3%.  It would be helpful to know what the DC resistance of the primary and secondary windings they are using.  With the 50 ohms of DCR in the primary, 13  watts gets dissipated in the primary winding and less then 0.1 watts gets dissipated in both the cap and secondary winding.  I'm using a 1:1 turns ratio in the model.  That's what makes such a high value load resistance necessary.  I believe James said he was using a 10:1 turns ratio.  For my simple sim I doubt that makes any difference for a rough efficiency analysis.

It's also interesting to note here that in this case with about 1HP of throughput, in the primary the peak voltage is 25.3kV and the peak current is 654mA giving the illusion of 8.3kW of oscillating power therein.  Looking at the peak stored energy can help the interested stay grounded here:  0.5 * 25,300^2 * 10e-9 = 3.2 Joules.  So there's just 3.2 joules of energy sloshing back and forth in the primary 411 times a second.  I wonder how many donations James would get if he mentioned that...