Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[F_Brown]

F_Brown,

I am going to assume that the coils that generate the flux through the toroid have DC current flowing through them for each individual frame in your animation like I state in my previous posting.  The AC component of the flux is caused by the rotor position.  Even if this assumption is wrong, it won't affect my main points in this posting.

The primaries are energized with fixed AC current, 0.9 A @ 1khz.  The armature rotates much slower than that, so the color plotting represents average flux density in the core over time.  This is much different mode of operation than what James is doing.  The animation is is just to illustrate the flux gating behavior in the core and to explore how much current and applied voltage it take to drive the core to optimal maximum flux density levels, which in this case I have set to in the 1.4 to 1.5 Tesla range, in order to keep the core from going into saturation.

What you can see in your clip is that when the rotor approaches the vertical or horizontal position, there is increasing flux flowing through the rotor.  That would correspond to magnetic attraction between the turning rotor and he mating components of the toroid.  So during this phase there is clockwise torque on the rotor from the the flux source in the toroid.

Likewise when the rotor is leaving the horizontal or vertical position, there is decreasing flux flowing through the rotor and that would also cause attraction between the rotor and the toroid.  During this phase there would be counter-clockwise torque on the rotor and that corresponds to magnetic drag on the external drive motor, Lenz law in action.

In the real QEG setup that magnetic drag/Lenz law will correspond to the rotating rotor giving a "kick" to the LC resonator and that kick requires mechanical energy that is supplied by the drive motor - you can't escape Mother Nature.

In this particular device Lenz force effects are really minimal, since the armature lacks any windings.  An armature without windings was one of James fundamental design parameters, so chosen to minimize Lenz force dragging.  As it is there is only a little bit of Lenz force generated in the rotor by eddy currents in rotor laminations.  Those laminations are designed to minimize the formation of eddy currents. 

Your animation clearly shows that the rotating rotor will modulate the flux through the toroid-rotating rotor system.  That will stir up changing flux and changing currents through the coils of the LC resonator and also through the output coils into the load.  The timing relationships at resonance will stabilize and there will be magnetic drag that resists the rotation of the rotor, there is no doubt.

I imagine there will be significant cogging as the device goes into resonance.  This is probably what causes the change in the sound of the QEG as it starts to light up the light bulbs in the video.  That effect of that cogging could be minimized with the use of a flywheel, and or with multiple QEGs on a single shaft arranged in a staggered configuration.

As was stated before, this is a kind of glorified pick-up coil on a pulse motor that is driving a capacitor to form an LC resonator.  You set up the timing so the pulse motor rotates such that the pick-up coil LC resonator is driven at the resonant frequency by the magnets passing the pick-up coil.   You end up with a large amplitude AC voltage/current set of waveforms in the pick-up coil and that represents a kind of matched load and a huge power drain.  When you add a load to the pick-up coil LC resonator you start to draw some power away from the LC resonator and the total power drain decreases and the pulse motor speeds up.

Going back to the QEG, understanding what it does in the real world will require producing a complete timing diagram for it tracking what is happening at resonance for all of the currents and magnetic flux flows, the whole nine yards.  You could wrap sensing coils around the four quadrants of the toroid and measure the voltages and then use those voltage waveforms to derive the magnetic flux flows through each of the four quadrants.   You simply integrate on the voltage waveforms with respect to time to get the flux waveforms.  That information would allow you to derive the flux flow through the rotor itself.  You would have to pick up a sensing tick from the rotating rotor so that you could track the rotor angle on your timing diagram.  And so on and so on....

Yep.

There is almost no point in doing this because nobody is going to measure over unity from this $5000 paperweight.

Beyond that, I don't get the sense that James M. Robitaille would be capable of doing this level of analysis even if he wanted to.  One could expect that none of the New Age hangers-on could do this and their eyes glazed over after reading the first few sentences of this posting.

I've been wondering about that too.  Supposedly he's a non-degreed motor lamination designer.  Most likely he was educated by the company or companies for which he worked.  Educated that is to use the companies preferred motor core design software to create cores according to customers requested performance specs.  As you mentioned from the comments he has made in his videos and his failure to provide more sophisticated information, I'm also tending to doubt he's ever designed a motor from scratch using just theory and general purpose computational electro-magnetics tools such as FEMM.   

This is not going to have a happy ending.  If it's true that there are 200 orders for the toroid and coils with the fancy dielectric potting compound at $3000 USD each, that's $600,000 USD.  Six-hundred thousand dollars!  Considering how easy it will be for all of these burned replicators to find each other, one possibility is a class action lawsuit against the perpetrators of this farce.

MileHigh

Probably so as so many devices have had before.  Even if it fails as an over-unity generator is still functions as an under-unity generator.  So, in either case the final product could do more than just hold down papers, and I'd still enjoy building and testing one.

BTW   I re-edited the description boxes for the videos.  Could you recheck them and see if I left out anything you mentioned.

[MileHigh]

F_Brown,

Thanks for your comments.  The thing that comes to my mind front and center is the power cost in sustaining the resonant mode.  When Conradelectro did his own "pick-up coil in resonance" experiments we finally had all of the data, the wire resistance, the RMS voltage and RMS current measurements, the inductance and capacitance values, etc.  We were finally in a position to measure the amount of power dissipated in the pick-up coil LC resonator system.   Note the pick-up coil LC resonator was not doing anything useful, it was just "sitting there" burning off power and causing Lenz drag on the pulse motor.

With the QEG in resonance, and not driving a load (similar to the pulse motor setup) with the extremely high voltages and corresponding currents, I wonder what the power cost will be to just have the QEG "sitting there" in resonance and not driving a load.   Then they can connect a load and make the same measurements again and see how much power is being dissipated in the load and in the LC resonator.  If some of the replicators do have the experience and skill set to do this, I think we may see a lot of raised eyebrows!

I really hope that a lot or official QEG "be-do" forum readers and contributors are "secretly" reading this thread!  lol

MileHigh

P.S.:  I read your updated comments on your YouTube video and they look great.  (Minor typo in the last paragraph - it happens to me all the time!  lol)

[TinselKoala]

I did actually think you had some idea about the sims. 

You might find it interesting that I did find an over-unity result in simulation for one device.  That was the the Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator.  I made a model with a multi-body dynamics simulator called Freecad, and it showed up to 2x the input power being dissipated in a linear damper on the output of the device.  The video of that seems to have disappeared from my YT channel, and I did that work on another computer.  It might take me a while to locate it again.

Link to the MBD simulator:   http://www.askoh.com/

Heh... and I've made several "working" gravity and spring-powered wheels in Algodoo/Phun! Also perpetual chaotic pendulums, which are pretty neat when you also use the function that makes a trace of the motion. Of course these are all done with zero air resistance and zero-friction bearings, and so forth.

Applying Ibison's Law, we conclude that the sims are incorrectly rounding or approximating somewhere, or even making more severe errors.

[F_Brown]

Miles,

FEMM is quite sophisticated.  It's actually able to calculate the Lenz forces generated by the eddy currents in the M19 and other laminated core materials.  That is. just as soon as I figure out how to ask it to do that...


TinselKoala,

I had trouble getting Phun to run under Linux.  Eventually, I found FreeCAD from Professor Koh.  It's actually pretty neat.  I do still have a video of a Milkovic dual pendulum oscillating in freespace.  That was one of the things that helped me get over the inertial propulsion idea.

http://youtu.be/luH3ab5YjrU

The device was constrained in one plane.  Now that I have a faster computer I might be able to make a better video.

And just for giggles:

http://youtu.be/GUWzPTaa8i0

Ha, I also have some math that says a gravity motor is possible.  It takes a ton of revolving mass to generator 20kW.  I still have yet to figure out how to implement the math in a practical device though... 

[TinselKoala]

Did you ever wonder where the "400 Hz" came from? Why in the world... or at least in countries where the line frequency is 60 Hz not 50 Hz... would any designer select 400 Hz?

Should we go back to WWII and re-study the Dynamotor Power Supply used to make DC from battery/generators into HV AC at 400 Hz for aircraft and marine applications? 400 Hz is used in these applications, of course, because the transformers and other components can be lighter in weight than 50-60 Hz transformers. And... there are many many AC powered instruments of that vintage that are designed to work on 400 Hz as well as on 50-60 Hz.