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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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F_Brown

Well, here is a table of primary inductance versus primary current when the rotor is aligned with a pole.

Amps     Henries

0.0001   55.06277720336362   
0.2501   57.6387   
0.5001   34.93331877876074   
0.7501   25.50009391476067   
1.0001   20.3906   
1.2501   17.1876   
1.5001   15.0017   
1.7501   13.4158   
2.0001   12.21168917605118   
2.2501   11.26430599658938   
2.5001   10.4973   
2.7501    9.861351969119122   
3.0001    9.32271   
3.2501    8.857569903666759   
3.5001    8.448837591752412   
3.7501    8.084681690739767   
4.0001    7.757196680838231   
4.2501    7.46103   
4.5001    7.19207

This certainly promises to be a fun challenge for which to create an accurate model...

MileHigh

F_Brown,

Interesting data for sure.  You can look at Itsu's clips where he has an amazing four-channel oscilloscope and he has the ability to make a four-signal timing diagram with the push of a button.  However, even with a low-bandwidth two-channel oscilloscope, there is nothing preventing a replicator from making a true timing diagram including analysis and interpretation of the data, and the derivation of the relevant data that's required to truly understand what is going on.

Let's take the example of the "dead band" which corresponds to certain angular ranges of the turning rotor.  Okay, so you figure out a way to get a "tick" from the spinning rotor to establish a baseline that all the other signals follow.   So you lay out some graph paper on your desk and you mark out horizontal divisions that correspond to the angular displacement of the rotor.  That also corresponds to advancing through time, but that is secondary to tracking the rotor angle.

Then, you plot how the capacitor voltage varies on your graph paper with respect to the rotor angle.  So all of a sudden you know at what angles the capacitor bank is charging and discharging, and how fast that is taking place.  You "close your eyes" and plot the capacitor current also.  Then you can "close your eyes" and plot the instantaneous capacitor charging and discharging power.  These two plots are derived from the capacitor voltage variation and the capacitance value, it's all a no-brainer if you know what you are doing.

Then you can record the light bulb voltage waveform.  If you were smart you would switch the light bulb for a high-power resistor bank that is approximately the same resistance of the hot filament of the light bulb.  That's to get the annoyance of the variability of the resistance of the light bulb load out of the way.

Once you have the light bulb (or resistive load) voltage waveform plot with respect to the rotor angle you are almost done for the "dead band" power investigation.  You "close your eyes" and you then plot the light bulb (or resistive load) power consumption with respect to to rotor angle.

Now, this is not necessarily the complete power picture with respect to the "dead band."  I think it is, but hey, this is just the very first go at working out this investigation on the bench in live streaming consciousness mode.

Here is the key thing:  You do the work above and here is what you have during the "dead band:"  You have a plot of the capacitor bank power versus rotor angle and you compare that to the light bulb power versus rotor angle.

If you see a lot of capacitor power lined up with much less light bulb power then the preliminary conclusion is that during the "dead band" the capacitor power is being lost and is heating the primary coils due to the flux-cancellation in the primary coils.

In other words, the capacitor energy is not making it's way to the load (where you want it to go) and is instead being wasted resistively heating the primary coils.

I could stream out proposed test after test if I wanted.  I could analyze the QEG inside-out with a cheap scope and a few days worth of work on the bench.  That would solve the QEG mystery.  The challenge is for the real QEG replicators to do the same thing following their own path.

MileHigh

F_Brown

Miles,

This device is kind of interesting in that it modulates the coupling coefficient between the primary and secondary from max what ever that turns out to be to zero at the modulation frequency.  That's why in my SPICE sim I measured the power dissipated by a resistive load in the primary circuit.

Because the thing is so non-linear, I'm in the process of working up a full lookup table for primary inductance and rotor torque vs primary current and rotor position.  If I am successful in being able to use that to create an accurate SPICE model, all will be revealed, except why some may people spent so much money on something before the saw it actually work...

Hmm, I suppose I shoulc include the primary to secondary coupling coefficient in with that as well.

Here's with a few more data points:

MileHigh

F_Brown,

Good luck on the simulations.  I have to confess I ran some Spice simulations for one or two electronics courses, and I submitted my Spice programs in the form of a stack of punched cards wrapped in a big elastic band.  Yikes!

Will any group of replicators do an analysis of the their real QEG replications like I am alluding to?  I think that there is a chance if there are people in the replication groups that are engineers, people that are outside of the culture of the free energy forums.  In terms of the people on the free energy forums themselves, I don't hold out much hope.  The best you can expect would be decent measurements of power-in to the electric motor, and power-out to the light bulb load.

MileHigh

F_Brown

Fortran SPICE on punch cards.  Ha, I remember those things.  Text based SPICE was a freaking nightmare.  It has gotten a lot easier now that graphical SPICE apps have been developed, and numerical apps like matlab.  I'm hooked on them.  :|

It's just happens that I was contacted by a group that bought a core, and plans to do some good analysis with it.  So, chances are good that you might see some of those questions answered in the next few weeks.  :)