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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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SeaMonkey

Quote from: MilesHigher
What about a vortex?  When you do the vector addition in your head, do you get a vortex or not?

You mean, like a headache?  A vortex in the head?

wattsup

@MH

Why are you talking about a Starship coil? And why do I have to get something in my head? Because you said so? That's coming on kind of strong there man.

The Rodin coil is several coils in one, each coil goes around and over several times over the stator, put all the coils together and you do start to produce a turning impress. There is no cancellation and no crossing wires. Call it vortex, call it spinning field, call it what you want, who cares about the name. As long as a pulse can move successively around the inside wall of an alternator, that is exactly the idea.

Whatever it is, it seems like a sphere magnet really likes it. So why not a stator that just loves the same thing. Might require stouter wire and like I explained, it may require a ramping up to get it going and surely there is R&D involved. I think I portrayed the idea as realistically as possible. I will try it eventually but these days my bench is kind of full.

@woopy

Thanks so much for trying those and providing your results. The single side by side one is not that surprising since less core is exposed, but the one with magnets could still require further tests using maybe a single weaker magnet, or two weaker magnets in repulsion (souths out try, then norths out try) held in place between their mutual end. Since in the Northern Hemisphere the south field is predominant using a two magnets with north field facing into both cores ends would be a logical trial. It is when playing with all the variables that an effect can be found. If you don't play, you won't score so thanks again. Sorry to learn about the breakage. Keep well and thanks again.

@gotoluc

Got in late last night. Will do the solenoid throw distance measurement today.

wattsup


MileHigh

Wattsup:

A regular cylindrical coil will make a ball magnet spin much better than a Rodin coil.

QuoteThe Rodin coil is several coils in one, each coil goes around and over several times over the stator, put all the coils together and you do start to produce a turning impress. There is no cancellation and no crossing wires.

It's not several coils in one and there is no turning impress.  Put DC through a regular Rodin coil or a starship Rodin coil and you will get a static unchanging magnetic field just like you will for a regular coil.  There is tons of magnetic field self-cancellation going on in a Rodin coil, and there is also self-cancellation happening in a regular coil.  There is no spinning anything happening anywhere in a Rodin coil.  I guess that you can't visualize this so I give up.

Like I said, a Rodin coil is a piece of electronics quackery.

Look, a simple diagram with two parallel wires A and B with DC current in each wire flowing left to right:


[region of addition]

A >---------------->

[region of cancellation]

B >---------------->

[region of addition]


Now, let's have wire A and wire B carry current in opposite directions:



[region of cancellation]

A >---------------->

[region of addition]

B <----------------<

[region of cancellation]


If you can't apply this to a Rodin starship coil or any arrangement of current carrying wire by visualizing this in your mind then you have to go back to basics.  I will repeat that a Rodin starship coil is full of areas where the magnetic field cancels itself out.  That means that some of the wire in the starship coil is not doing anything useful, it's just acting as a resistor burning off power for nothing.  A regular cylindrical coil will be more efficient than a Rodin coil every time.  I define efficiency in this case as how much magnetic fiux you can produce for a given length of wire.  You could also define it as how much magnetic flux you can produce per watt of resistive power loss in the wire.  A cylindrical coil wins out in both cases.

One of the most abused terms on the free energy forums is "efficiency."   An example, "That pulse motor is very efficient."  That statement is meaningless.  Call that a micro rant.

Anyway, this is off topic so back to the QEG.

MileHigh

F_Brown

Here are some links to my little look into the Rodin coil.  As far as I can tell any coil wound the "Starship" way with the wires distancing themselves far from the torus would just let the magnetic field escape and dissipate itself every which way.  Only a coil that completely covered the torus form and stayed right up against it would contain and twist the magnetic field in the way I describe in the videos.  I think it was IBM research labs that did a good quantitative study on the Rodin coil and they found the only unusual things about it was that it has a slightly higher than usual amount of inductance for an air core coil, and that the use of a ferrite core fails to increase the inductance of the coil in any significant way.

Part 1:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DyaRzVxp2Y

Part 2:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBrdLYxCisI

Part 3:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdrZB4UTvxI

Please forgive the simple production of these videos.  They were the first ones I made some years ago.