Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[jbignes5]

Jbignes5:

You have to learn to debate without throwing a hissy fit.  The facts as far as we know right now are that there is no tangible concrete proof that the QEG is real.  The facts are that quantum energy and a resonating coil on a macro scale have nothing to do with each other.  The facts are that the only way to get power out of a coil is to have changing magnetic flux inside the coil.  The facts are that it takes real tangible electric power to create changing magnetic flux inside a coil.  Alternatively it takes real tangible mechanical power moving a magnet past a coil to create changing magnetic flux inside a coil.

You are the one speculating (or throwing BS) when you say this, "If you have matter and it is in the quantum realm as atoms are then it has access to all the energy of the quantum world right? If energy could be imparted to the matter then it must come from what connects everything. Learning how to access this energy is the trick."

That's all just pure speculation on your part.  The answer to our energy problems or the question about the validity of the QEG is not found by linking to a New Age YouTube clip or by singing Kumbaya around a campfire.

You are talking about yourself in the above statement.

Like it or not, many of us are fed up with "quantum plays" and "resonance plays" when it comes to alleged systems that are supposed to produce free energy.  Don't be surprised if the news gets bleaker and gloomier for the QEG proposition as time goes on.  That's my speculation and I have been correct in the past when it comes to things like this.

If that scenario turns out to indeed be true, then what are you left with?  The answer is money in various Paypal accounts where the owners of those Paypal accounts are accountable to nobody.

MileHigh

The only speculation going on here is all the comments from people who do not have a device or even facts of the device. You and others are speculating that this is nothing but a scam with no proof.


There is a reason for not much information right now and sitting round here demanding answers and speculating as to why there is no answers is doing little for anyone at all. Instead what you are doing is throwing flags from the sidelines with nothing as proof. Like I said the only thing we can do at this point is to sit and wait. Time will tell and no amount of speculation is gonna get answers at all.


My conclusions were a response to all the BS being spread about this device even before they can get concrete evidence.


One thing is for sure. There are a some here that have a lot to loose from a working device like this. This causes them to go into damage control and throw all kinds of logical fallacies to justify their bad behaviour, without knowing all the facts. We have very little to go on right now. The only thing we can do at this point is to wait and see. No amount of chest beating is gonna get us closer to understanding this process. No amount of character assassination or "Debate" without the facts will help either side. Although there is some credible evidence that this is genuine, there is just to many unanswered questions to fully understand weather it is legitimate at this point. The only thing I see is non factual speculation that this is a scam. Innuendo is not proof of anything but just a tactic by some to discredit something they have very little knowledge about.


The world is not flat and everyone now knows this. This revelation took time and PROOF. We have Time but we have little proof either way here. So ranting and speculating about this is a big waste of time PERIOD.


So I am requesting that only the facts be posted here. On that note you and others have no proof of fraud no matter how you look at it. PROOF not speculation. 

[e2matrix]

For those who believe the QEG is not possible:
An energy researcher died leaving his 17 pieces of test equipment to his three sons.

When his sons opened up the Will it read:
My eldest son should get 1/2 (half) of total pieces of test equipment;
My middle son should be given 1/3rd (one-third) of the total pieces of test equipment;
My youngest son should be given 1/9th (one-ninth) of the total pieces of test equipment.

As it's impossible to divide 17 into half or 17 by 3 or 17 by 9, the three sons started to fight with each other.

So, they decided to go to an energy researcher friend who they considered quite smart, to see if he could work it out for them.

The energy researcher friend read the Will patiently, after giving due thought, he brought one of his own pieces of test equipment over and added it to the 17. That increased the total to 18 pieces of test equipment.

Now, he divided the pieces of test equipment according to their fathers Will.

Half of 18 = 9. So he gave the eldest son 9 pieces of test equipment.
1/3rd of 18 = 6. So he gave the middle son 6 pieces of test equipment.
1/9th of 18 = 2. So he gave the youngest son 2 pieces of test equipment.

Now add up how many pieces of test equipment they have:
Eldest son   = 9
Middle son   = 6
Youngest son = 2

TOTAL = 17

Now this leaves one piece of test equipment left over, so the energy researcher friend takes his piece of test equipment back to his shop.

Problem Solved!

Moral:
The attitude of negotiation and problem solving is to find the 18th piece of test equipment i.e. the common ground.  Once a person is able to find the 18th piece of test equipment the issue is resolved. It is difficult at times.
   
   However, to reach a solution, the first step is to believe that there is a solution!!   If we think that there is no solution, we won't be able to reach any!

[jbignes5]

While we are on the subject of bad behaviors and tactics, lets look at yours and others.


Mark Dansie: "[size=78%] I am more concerned about the good people of Morocco who will be left with a non working devcie.[/size]Meantime HopeGirl orders anotehr martini at 30,000 ft lol"  Seculation and out right lie. Non factual


Cap-Z-Pro "This whole thing has played out oddly...all this hype, all the visions...and now nothing ?Hmmm, maybe somebody sent some Malaysian plane [color=rgb(27, 142, 222) !important]tickets[/color] to some family members of Robitaille."  Again Speculation and Innuendo.


MileHigh: "[size=78%]Like I said, a Rodin coil is a piece of electronics quackery." Speculation and innuendo.[/size]
[size=78%]                " [/size][size=78%]Transformers for low frequency power applications or for high frequency radio and signal processing applications have been around for a long time.  If there was some sort of "magic secret sauce" it would have been found about 100 years ago.  It would not have been the WITTS group or the QEG group that "discovered" something.[/size]I read that HopeGirl, Naima Feagin, is married to the lead engineer on the project, James Robitaille.  So between "Fix the World" and the QEG and the crowd funding and all the different variations thereof, don't be surprised if there are more than 100 "Donate" buttons that go into their portfolio of Paypal accounts.  That sounds like a two-year paid vacation in the making to me.If the main claim is that when the QEG is at resonance that quantum energy is magically injected into the core then it won't happen.  A resonating LC circuit and the real quantum energy that physicists research and study have nothing to do with each other."   Speculation, out right lies and innuendo.


"What is the magnetic field inside a wire of radius R?   What is the magnetic field outside a wire of radius R?  I will assume that Marko would not be able to answer those questions, he would choke." Logical fallacy and out right BS.


Here is a question for you: What is the electric field inside of a wire? What is the electric field outside of the wire? Why do you only focus on the magnetic field and not the ever present electric field we ALL know is there? Why is it that you ignore everything about the electric field yet totally focus on the magnetic? This is the main question! And this is why we have ignored this Electric field for over 100 years. It was Tesla who pointed to the electric field. It was Tesla who taught us that in order to reduce the losses that we must increase the electric potential of the current we want to transport over vast distances. These are FACTS. We use those facts every day in our outdated electrical system, yet you and others choose to ignore and outright lie about those facts.


All of those quotes are merely from the last two pages or so of this single thread. Not to mention all of the other threads you have corrupted with your narrow minded closed system. FYI there is no such thing as a closed system. That is an ideal system which no real system that you or me use is. All systems are subject to outside interference. In fact most devices state that explicitly on the label. All systems are indeed open to interference although some are more resistant to this interference than others but they are still open to a degree.


Now resonance is a process of selective openness. This means it has been designed to be more open on one small band. It rejects or filters a good amount of the rest of the band and in this process it amplifies the selected band through resonance. Otherwise Radios and communications would otherwise be impossible.




We are stuck in our endeavours for over 100 years because they rejected the Ideas of Tesla after he had created sooo many wonderful devices and systems. They took what could make them the most money and rejected the ones that would free us as a civilization. This has retarded most from finding free energy and caused a rift between the ones who know this Universe is infinite and the ones who think it is finite. That rift is waning away and a new understanding of the Universe is unfolding, no matter how you feel about that, it is a reality. No amount of you or others behaving badly will counter this new understanding. What it will do is show how limited you guys think and how limited you think you are keeping us.


I feel really bad about how you are gonna feel once a system is proven to conform to these FACTS we are discovering. What a shame it will be to hear about your suicide because you felt soo bad to the way you have treated others in your quest to suppress the TRUTH. All of nature does not conform to your close minded system. It runs not on fuel but merely on the whole (unity) of the universe. We live in environments and as we are finding out those environments can be influenced by further out environments. Take for example our own earth. If it is a truly closed system then we have nothing to fear from solar storms but is that statement true at all? ABSOLUTELY NOT! No system is truly closed and hence why we might be headed for some really bad days ahead from our suns activities. All planets in our solar system are being affected by the suns influence, not just the planet earth. All of the planets are heating up due to the suns influence. This is not pseudo-science it is REAL FACTS.


I have not seen one fact come from your side. NOT ONE. It is all supposition and innuendo and frankly I am choosing to abstain from this community from now on. I have my plan and so do others and you do not fit into those plans. Once I get my system up and running I am leaving this crap behind me and taking my family to a place of caring and love for my fellow man. You in my opinion are not a man but a sheeple. You can not go beyond you limited world and that is not a world I want to belong to anymore. I tire of this crap and I'm tired of hearing your junk science. In your world you will run out of fuel and will wither and die. In my world we have limitless energy and bountiful returns of everything we desire. I choose my world and what you choose is death. So be it.


I am finally disconnecting from this forum. It is a choice I am forced to do. Not because of some of the other great thinkers and doers here but because I can not stand the bad taste I get from seeing posts like you and others have forced upon us here. I have my course already set and I am not going to deviate from that now.

[markdansie]

While we are on the subject of bad behaviors and tactics, lets look at yours and others.

Mark Dansie: "[size=78%] I am more concerned about the good people of Morocco who will be left with a non working devcie.[/size]Meantime HopeGirl orders anotehr martini at 30,000 ft lol"  Seculation and out right lie. Non factual


I am finally disconnecting from this forum. It is a choice I am forced to do. Not because of some of the other great thinkers and doers here but because I can not stand the bad taste I get from seeing posts like you and others have forced upon us here. I have my course already set and I am not going to deviate from that now.

I agree the martini at 30,000 ft was speculation and a poor attempt at humor. However until they receive a working device in Morocco then the fact they do not have one is fact. I think you have fact mixed up with faith and speculation.
Good luck on your journey and as I always say...enjoy the journey the outcome of destination is secondary.
Kind Regards
Mark


PS why did HopeGirl say they had a free energy working device when fund raising when they did not??? Fact??

[vince]

@ GOtoluc


Luc ,I want to ask your opinion on your earlier test with the MOT s and the rotating end plates.
If there was no issue with added motor load and slapping of the end plate on the core do you think that it could have generated usable power?


Vince