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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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gravityblock

Quote from: MarkE on May 17, 2014, 03:05:02 AM
LOL.  Now for our after dinner entertainment:  We are treated to the straw man in bigger bolder letters.

Where's your scientific argument?  LOL.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

MileHigh

Well, now that some pent-up frustrations have been released where the "anti troll brigade" became trolls themselves, what's left?

Not much.  There are no legitimate scientific arguments that can explain how the QEG is supposed to allegedly work.  From what I can see so far, the QEG is doing exactly what it is supposed to do, and what it is expected to do - act like a very crappy generator.

James and Naime talked all about some sort of big collaborative effort, and in fact there is no observable collaborative effort at all.  The main QEG forum is like a ghost town on the dark side of the moon with respect to some kind of synergistic collaborative effort taking place about developing this alleged technology.  Plus it should not have to be developed at all, they claimed it was working.

So my prediction is that the whole project has already started to fade away.  You will never hear anything from Taiwan, even though it was made too look like a really big deal just a few weeks ago.  The Moroccan villagers will quickly forget about the visit by the QEGers and go back to normal life - no free energy water pump in sight.

It's already about to go "dark."  And no, that doesn't mean that it has been suppressed by the MIB/PTB.  What it means is a bunch of people went "crazy" and twisted dials and wound coils and chanted and nothing happened.  So they all went home.

The puppet masters are left with the booty in their dozen or more PayPal accounts.

Message to the people that have already gone home or are about to go home:  SPEAK UP!  Post about your experiences here or on other forums.  Tell us how you felt about spending thousands of dollars to travel abound the world believing that you were about to start a revolution in energy and ended up seeing nothing accomplished.   We want to hear your voices!  You have a duty to your fellow man to explain what your experiences were in order to prevent something like this happening in the future!  Just state the truth as you experienced it and let's discuss it.

We as a collective society have a responsibility to try to work together to make things better.  Exposing bad people like James and Naime is an example of a real way to contribute to fixing the world.

MileHigh

gravityblock

Quote from: Hope on May 17, 2014, 05:00:47 AM
Grav,  real or fake is that the question or the sum?   We know for certain it does not work as of yet,  so I for one would like to find a solution to the non working part.  When one day we do find solution for OU there will be a solid understanding developed we will call it a science of course.  Then that science will be applied to many previously discarded devices and they will be perfected into COP > 1.   This device or a past or any it does not matter.  What matters is that we work together sparking each others thoughts and DOING with builds and simulations or whatever it takes to get us there.


In a way trolls provide some positive aspects of letting us know we are on the right track or near it.  It always encourages me to see them appear and the harder they bark the more I know we are getting closer to a working device. On thing is for certain, if COP > 1 exists everyday we work toward it, it is one day closer we are to discovering OU.


One thought I would like to have you all remember is that in many past (thought to be working) devices there were connections to either and earth sink and/or a air sink (meaning we collected or connected to a reservoir).  So where would we place an antenna in this circuit and/or ground?

IMO, OU is everywhere due to the expansion acceleration of mass.  I can show mass is not conserved with the mass-energy equation.  Then I can show energy isn't conserved due to the expansion acceleration of mass.  At the Large Electron-Positron Collider (LEP), which operated at the CERN laboratory near Geneva through the 1990s, electrons and positrons (anti electrons) were accelerated to velocities within about one part in a hundred billionth of the speed of light. Speeding around in opposite directions, the particles smashed into each other, producing a lot of debris. A typical collision might produce ten π mesons, a proton, and an anti-proton. Now let's compare the total masses, before and after:

electron + positron: 2 × 10^–28 gram
10 pions + proton + anti-proton: 6 × 10^–24 gram

What comes out weighs about thirty thousand times as much as what went in. If mass is not conserved—and it's not!, then we can seek its origin.

Question: If E = mc^2, then mass is proportional to energy. So if energy is conserved according to the mass-energy equation, doesn't that mean that mass will be conserved, too?

Answer: The short answer is that E = mc^2 really applies only to isolated bodies at rest. It's a pity that this equation, the equation of physics that is best known to the general public, is actually a little cheesy. In general, when you have moving bodies, or interacting bodies, energy and mass aren't proportional. E = mc^2 simply doesn't apply. E = mc^2 holds for isolated bodies at rest. For moving bodies, the correct mass-energy equation is given in the image below, where v is the velocity. For a body at rest (v = 0), this becomes E = mc^2. When a body, for example, a proton or an electron, is accelerated, v generally changes, but m stays the same. Therefore, the equation tells us, E changes. If energy is conserved according to the mass-energy equation, but mass is not, then what gives?

Conservation of energy applies to systems, not to individual bodies. The total energy of a system of bodies includes contributions from both energy of motion and "potential energy" terms that reflect the interactions among the bodies. The potential energy terms are given by other formulas, which depend on the distances between the bodies, their electric charges, and perhaps other things. It is only the total energy that is conserved according to the mass-energy equation.

An isolated body has a constant velocity. That's Newton's first law of motion, which, unlike his zeroth law, still appears to be valid. When a body is isolated, we can regard it as a system unto itself. So the energy of the body should be conserved and from the formula, it is. Conversely, when a body's velocity changes, that very change is a signal that the body is not isolated. Some other body has to be acting on it to produce the change in velocity. The action of one body on another generally transfers energy between them. Only the total energy is conserved according to the mass-energy equation, not the energy of each body separately.

We considered a dramatic violation of conservation of mass. An electron and a positron annihilate, and out come a collection of particles whose total mass is 30,000 times larger. Nevertheless, energy is conserved. The velocities of the initial electron and positron were very close to the speed of light. Therefore, according to the general mass-energy equation, their energy is very large, much larger than mc^2. The particles that emerge from the collision, although they are more massive, move a bit more slowly. When you add up their energies, calculated using the mass-energy equation, the sum matches the total energy of the original electron and positron. Once the particles fly out and separate, the interaction, or potential, energy becomes negligibly small.  Now, since we have a dramatic violation in the conservation of mass according to the mass-energy equation, and mass is undergoing expansion acceleration and is provided by different equations, then energy isn't conserved either.

Reference:  The above is taken right out of a book written by Frank Wilczek titled, "The Lightness of Being: Mass, Ether, and Unification of the Forces". This book is a must read! He is considered one of the world's most eminent theoretical physicists. He is known, among other things, for the discovery of asymptotic freedom, the development of quantum chromodynamics (QCD), the invention of axions, and the discovery and exploitation of new forms of quantum statistics (anyons). Frank Wilczek is a Nobel Prize Winner, and is also an official advisor to CERN and to Daedalus.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

SchubertReijiMaigo

@ MileHigh:
They've done a crowdfunding campaign and got more than 18000 fucking Dollars !  8)
$$$ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/home-quantum-energy-generator $$$
The sad part is that one day if someone who is serious (and have a truly working device) about starting an FE start-up, he will get labeled at scam without analysis.
That kind of things tend to discredit the whole OU research...  >:(

verpies

Quote from: gravityblock on May 17, 2014, 08:53:16 AM
Quote from: MarkE on May 17, 2014, 03:05:02 AM
LOL.  Now for our after dinner entertainment:  We are treated to the straw man in bigger bolder letters.
Where's your scientific argument?  LOL.
Apparently the non-scientific argumentation is not one-sided ;)