Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[Khwartz]

This report is good in the sense that it explains what the setup is exactly and what has been measured and how.

I have read the report in detail and based on the reported measurements (not the reported interpretations), there is no overunity. The analytical analysis of the test results is lacking.

Here is my feedback on the various new experiments they did:

Experiment 2
6x100W bulb load is in the secondary circuit in series with the coil. Resistance of a single bulb is 576ohms (100W at 240V). Or total load is 6x 576 = 3456 ohms (when hot). Their resistance number of 251.5 ohms appears to be the measured cold resistance of one bulb (or 6 bulbs in series; this is not clearly stated).

No efficiency is mentioned for the secondary circuit but it is clearly under unity based on the traces (around 30% max).

Then the power is analyzed in the primary circuit. In this case there is no load in the primary circuit, so of course what is measured is not real power. What seems not to be understood by them is that measuring reactive power in the primary can not be simply assumed as transferable into real power or into extractable power. In fact the energy oscillating in the primary circuit is energy stored in the coils and capacitor; the energy is transferred from the coils to the capacitor, then back from the capacitor to the coils, etc. Some energy is dissipated in the coil's resistance. What is actually measured is the rate (power = energy / second) of energy transfer between the coil and capacitor. They mention a number of 22,800 VAR, or 22,800 Joules going back and forth every second between coil and capacitor. This is certainly possible, but should not be used to claim overunity. With a 100% efficient motor drawing 607W, it would only take 37.5 seconds for the motor to build up this energy into the primary circuit. The question remains, how much real power can one draw from the primary without destroying the resonance and whether this number is more or less than the 607W that the motor puts in. From all experiments done to date, this number has always been less than what the motor consumes.

Experiment 3
This experiment is similar to Experiment 2 except that the load appears in the primary coils.
For the secondary coils, the same logic applies as what is explained above for the primary coils. What is measured is an energy transfer rate between coil and capacitor, not extractable power. In order to determine extractable power, a load has to be placed into the secondary circuit.
For the primary coils, it appears the voltage is measured over the load and capacitor together (or over the coil), so the current shape is very non-sinusoidal and there is no point discussing RMS power in this case. The voltage should instead have been measured over the bulbs to get an estimate of what the real efficiency might have been in this configuration. Here again no over unity is shown. Just some numbers that show the energy transfer rate of energy accumulated in the circuit between coil and capacitor.

Despite the fact that no overunity was shown, I think it is good though for everyone to see the full measurement report and raw data (despite the fact that some of the conclusions drawn in the report are incorrect). People should be able to draw their own conclusions based on the raw data.

PmgR, Ph.D. EE
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Hi! I like your detailed analysis and I am agree with all your arguments in physics, including there is not "true" or "REAL" overnity, except when you looks to say that the oscillating energy exchanged in the tank couldn't be used.

I assume you say that while using the ordinary concepts in EM. But don't you remember that the "classic contemporary teaching" in electricity, forget the greatest part of the founders of the domain used? What about Faraday saying that the electrical energy is not located in the conductor but around it? Why Maxwell with his quaternions and "the potential vector" broadly ignored? Why Tesla has followed this guys in their concepts and went even further with his longitudinal waves (if I remember well)?

Anyway, as I said in my previous post: you never (or rarely) know what you don't know.

Cheers.

[Khwartz]

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With respect to the reactive power, the famous "VARs," they are stating that the goal is to turn the reactive power into real power. The argument is that there is more reactive power than power input, and all that they have to do is convert the mysterious reactive power into real power.  Now that might sound plausible to a lay person, (and they may donate) but it's not true.

One more time, this is a nonsensical proposition.  It's something that can't be done, and they are trying to suggest that it can be done.

MileHigh

So, what have succeed to do guys like Paul Babcok, Jim Murray and Eric Dollard, in your opinion? Aren't they succeed to convert VARs in real power?

I am not sure of the skills of this team, even if they LOOK genuine to me, but saying it is not possible because the concepts you have learnt and praticed until now say "it is not possible", is a big epistemologic jock at front at the history of Sciences, as I stated before. And if you can't agree with that, you know nothing of your domain cause you don't really know it's past.

[MileHigh]

Khwartz:

If one can succeed to change the phase of one the these two or both, one may be able the synchronise then and convert themm in real power.

Nope, because "reactive power" is a very poor choice of words that people are using for describing what's going on.  People hear the word "power" and they think of a continuous stream of power.  That leads them to thinking of converting from a continuous stream of "reactive power" into a continuous stream of real power.

The problem is there is no continuous stream of "reactive power."  It's just a one-shot corresponding to the fixed amount of energy circulating back and forth in the LC tank.  You use it and it's gone.  You have to draw more power from the input to fill up the LC tank circuit with "reactive power" before you can supply more power to the output.

It's like this:  The "reactive power" is just a middle-man, it takes input power and either stores it or passes it onto the output.  The middle-man storage capacity is fixed to a certain maximum.

It's like three five-year-olds in a line.  The first kid has pennies and he passes some pennies to the middle kid.  The middle kid might keep five pennies and say stop, or he may pass the pennies to the third kid in the line.

Do you think the kid in the middle has a magic infinite source of pennies?   If you still believe in "reactive power" like you originally stated then you believe that the middle kid has a magic infinite source of pennies.

Forget about playing the "exotic energy" card also, this is all basic electronics and nothing more than that.

James should also realize that the primary tank circuit in the QEG does not hold a magic infinite source of pennies.

It really is as simple as kids passing pennies.  It's doom and gloom for the whole project - the stress and pressure of failure to deliver is going to build up.  They are pros and lied from the very beginning.  If they have bruised egos from the "negative energy from bad people" then they should just tell the real truth and get it over with.  If some of the people that gave them money are mad, and they have a real desire and the resources to go after them, then they may face legal action.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Khwartz:

I am not sure of the skills of this team, even if they LOOK genuine to me, but saying it is not possible because the concepts you have learnt and praticed until now say "it is not possible", is a big epistemologic jock at front at the history of Sciences, as I stated before. And if you can't agree with that, you know nothing of your domain cause you don't really know it's past.

As you can see I answered in my previous post.  It has nothing at all to do with "concepts I have learnt."  It's just basic nuts and bolts that a good kid in Grade 8 physics class could easily understand.  It literally is as trivial as kids passing pennies to each other.

I know my domain reasonably well and I am 100% certain of what I am stating.  Just search on "LC resonator" or "LC tank circuit" if you want to get some more information.

MileHigh

[Khwartz]

I've not looked in for several days and I feel that I've missed out on the critique of the latest QEG report. It seems pretty much everything worthwhile has already been said.  I too am dumbfounded why Jamie can't see that the I and V wave forms are almost, if not exactly, 90 degrees out of phase with each other (as one would expect to see for an LC circuit). As for the current spikes (noise) I wonder if this is due to the mechanical vibration of the core laminations. As for the double peaks in the primary current waveform, I wonder if this is not due there there being two primary windings.


In the UK reactive power (VAr) is very often referred to as "imaginary" power. As everybody here knows reactive power is important for balancing the grid system for power distribution but it's not possible to do work with it (in the QEG you are simply parsing energy back and forth between the primary core inductance and the capacitor bank). I was not aware that is is possible to convert "imaginary" power into "real" power as Jamie says they are working on. Can someone please enlighten me. Is the "Transverter" a real or mythical device?

The specialist of Transvertor was te YouTuber Selfonlypath, based on the work of Hector Perrez. Doug Dozen knows much about too, and it is indeed to store the energy at very specific times and to free it at others.

Cheers.