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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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Khwartz

Quote from: MarkE on May 31, 2014, 05:25:58 AM
Imaginary and real power are distinct.  The energy that goes into a resonant tank can with appropriate circuitry later be delivered into a load.  Quasi resonant and fully resonant power converters exploit that fact.  I don't think that is what JR is talking about.
Could you please link me to this technique of convertion of accumulated resonant power in real power?

Khwartz

Quote from: Farmhand on May 31, 2014, 06:10:15 AM
Resonant rise can be useful, ie. if we have a very low voltage low current low power supply and we want to apply a higher power to a load intermittently, then we might use a resonant tank and apply small power input until the desired voltage or power is achieved then tap the energy in the tank so as to intermittently apply a much higher power to the load than is possible with the low power supply. However the energy in the tank will decrease suddenly and rebuild slowly.

Or when the power namely the voltage portion reaches a suitable level an attached load that requires a certain voltage with little current can be powered continuously while limiting the tanks oscillating energy. Tinsel showed this. Resonance could be useful in energy scavenging.

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So you've said that it is possible to convert imaginary, reactive power, pure resonant, or oscillating power in real one by standard means and classic physics; very thanks for having specified.

If I have well read and care of your technical objections on the demo and report, but looked to me many here were saying the convertion was not possible.

Nevertheless, still need to show that the tank can be feeded back as fast as we need, than we take from it, and this, in a greater amount than the mechanical input of the motor; that I conjecture it could be possible by a ventury like effect.

MileHigh

No need for a link.

For starters, to be specific and to not induce any misunderstandings, it's accumulated resonant energy, not accumulated resonant power.

1.  Connect a resistor across the terminals of the capacitor.
2.  Put a coil next to the tank coil and magnetically couple the two coils together.  Put a resistor across the new coil.

You can think of the resistor in either case being like applying the brakes on a moving car to slow it down.  To be more specific, it would be like a "damper."  A damper resists with more power the faster you are moving, and likewise resists with less power the slower that you are moving.  Like how a car shock absorber works.  The net result in an ideal case is that the damper can never actually make the car stop moving.

MileHigh

TinselKoala

Mile High is exactly correct. The analogy that I used before, of the little girl on a swing, should be recalled and considered. You give the little girl a slight push each cycle in time with her swinging and the amplitude of the swing increases to scary heights.  Measure the maximum heights of the swing: this is your Peak-to-Peak reactive power. Do you want to extract it? Go stand in front of the swing; when it hits you, you will get all that stored energy dumped into you as real power. Do you want to use the power at a reasonable rate? Fine, you can extract it no faster than it is being resupplied by the per-cycle little pushes.


Bottom line: utilizing reactive power is no big deal. Utilizing it at a faster rate than it is being replaced by the input... and your resonant system will collapse.



Khwartz

Quote from: MarkE on May 31, 2014, 09:20:12 AM
There are basically two classes of switch mode power converters:  Hard switching and soft switching.  Hard switching converters generate trapezoidal current waveforms.  Soft switching converters are resonant or quasi resonant.  They switch at near zero voltage across or near zero current through the switches.  Zero voltage switching is more efficient when using MOSFETs than zero current switching.
Thanks for these specifications.