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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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Khwartz

Quote from: wayne49s on May 31, 2014, 07:59:52 PM
There are various circuits out there that are suppose to convert the reactive power to real power from the rotoverter device information (you can do a search on this).  The principle is one based on extracting through voltage (capacitor charging) and drawing power from them. Note that voltage is a maximum when current is at a minimum (charging interval near voltage maximum), so BEMF is minimized in terms of impact back to the source, i.e. the motor turning the generator.  Also, it is desirable to extract the power from the capacitor when it is not being charged, so this is another way not to impact the source current draw.


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In any case, I believe the QED may yet show OU.
I am agree with Farhand and MileHigh that theoretically, logically,  it needs a connection to an infinite reservoir to add exceeding energy in the system to be able to haverst it in a second time.

But yes, the transvertor system is as you say: capacitors are connected at specific times to be exposed to the reactive voltage.

An essential part is the "diod plug", the switching system which will one time exposes the capacitors to the reative voltage and when disconnected, feeds the load with these same capacitors.

Khwartz

Quote from: MileHigh on May 31, 2014, 08:37:47 PM
Khwartz:

I suppose you could say it boils down to the issue of the physical QEG itself.  Is it just a normal circuit or is there an infinite source of energy feeding the QEG's LC tank?

The answer is that it is a normal circuit and the concept of an infinite source of energy feeding any circuit is just a hypothetical.  There is no reason to link this hypothetical with the QEG. 
Speak for you! If there WOULD be any true overunity, my conjecture is that it WOULD be because of a connection to an inifinite reservoir, by generation of high votage pics.

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If someone wants to research this hypothetical concept then fine, but not with a QEG.
Why?! Who are you to give orders like that?! Are you kidding?

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To pitch to the world that you
Why you say "you"? "I' do not have any (true) overunity device! And not claiming to have any!

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have a free energy machine like the QEG is wrong and the test results from the QEG team so far clearly show there is no over unity.  They don't want to state this fact directly and instead play a game of smoke and mirrors with the results and the promises.

MileHigh
Well, if you don't take time read my bad English, just skip my comments please, cause right at the beginning I have well state the values of the report don't give a true overunity COP but VARs under Real.

The question was: can we transform the reactive "power" (way to say), in active, real power? The answer looks to be "yes".

Then, can it sustain itself while we would pump this energy from the tank;  the answer is: no, IF any connection to an infinite reservoir is not made, while this connection could be made through high voltage pics; BUT NOT SAYING THAT OCCURS IN THESE EXPERIMENT.

TinselKoala

Quote from: Khwartz on May 31, 2014, 08:53:38 PM
TinselKoala, I do agree with you both on that point and never said the contrary. I was just going further than this and in this case all is about the possible connection to an infinite reservoir (NOT necessary in this experiment).

To try to use your analogy, it would be like if when the swin reaches a certain height the girl would have time to take big fruits on the tree and gives it to someone at the lowest height. If done continously,  the swin could go on indefinitely while an flow of particles, here the fruits, occurs.

Of course here the tree wouldn't be "an infinite reservoir", but the Ditac's plemun looks to be...

Yes, I get that and I agree. Dirac's plenum, I think you mean.

But answer me this: IF such a connection could be made, in whatever manner, like using a resonant system somehow ... could a competent engineer with a 10,000 dollar oscilloscope detect the presence of the excess energy fruits in the system, over and above what conventional physics and known sources are providing?

For example, since the behavior of the QEG is fairly accurately modeled by standard circuit theory, and the measurements indicate nothing unusual happening in terms of efficiency, can we conclude that there is no connection to the Fruit Plenum?

Or would the device only be, say, 20 percent efficient without the extra fruit, and the Banana Connection boosts it to 30 percent.... so all we have to do is grab more fruit?

TinselKoala

The main objection to the QEG saga isn't that someone wants to research something ridiculous, it is the fraudulent marketing and the outright lies and other misrepresentations made by HypeGirl and whoever else on their "team" emits information. If they had presented it as a research project, speculating about outcomes and asking for donations based on that... well, OK maybe. But that isn't what they did: they proclaimed they had a fully working design and a tested functional prototype, even stating the specific figure of 150 hours running. Everybody "assumed" that meant 150 hours running _itself_ and lighting up the usual loads. But now... some of us realize that wasn't true at all. Yet they drummed up a lot of interest and a huge amount of money. Enough money to fund me and my lab fully for the next five years, and that was just for starters. And that is what is so objectionable about their process. They are selling something they do not have and do not know how to make, while making false claims about its performance. Whether what they claim is impossible or not (it is) is really beside the point, from a mail fraud standpoint. After all, gold exists and can be mined. So will you buy some of these shares in my gold mine? If the shares aren't real or the mine isn't real or I don't have authority to sell them, you are being defrauded, even though gold itself might actually exist somewhere.

Khwartz

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 31, 2014, 09:29:14 PM
Yes, I get that and I agree. Dirac's plenum, I think you mean.

But answer me this: IF such a connection could be made, in whatever manner, like using a resonant system somehow ... could a competent engineer with a 10,000 dollar oscilloscope detect the presence of the excess energy fruits in the system, over and above what conventional physics and known sources are providing?

For example, since the behavior of the QEG is fairly accurately modeled by standard circuit theory, and the measurements indicate nothing unusual happening in terms of efficiency, can we conclude that there is no connection to the Fruit Plenum?

Or would the device only be, say, 20 percent efficient without the extra fruit, and the Banana Connection boosts it to 30 percent.... so all we have to do is grab more fruit?
Lol, well, as I told you, I don't know for this experiment/QEG.

My idea (not for this specific device), is that we may construct high sharp pics voltage by resonnance with little input, and by saturating certain levels of energy previously totally balanced in the plenum, we could possibly harvest a part of this energy; still like in the venturi effect where particles (molecules) of an outside aera are pumped by the primary flow, the outside/secondary flow adding to the first.

I recognise it is mainly an intuition but it is based of several years of studying what looked worked to produce possible free energy in EM/EM configuration. You are of course completely free to not follow this line but I won't accept an opposition to this possibility if not with good arguments and an enough open mind, not able to accept new concepts.

Cheers.