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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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pavqw

I am very interested in what comes at the end of this month.
Open source project concept was'nt understood there at all. First there should be access to all stuff they did and what's a plan exactly. Which configuration was tested with all the details.
And especially there is nothing like community. There are maybe 4 "active" (in a closed circle) ppl and few around them without any knowledge.
If they want to succeed, it has to be really open. Why they need money when community can do such tests for free? But if there are no details about it, there is nothing to test.
Why the latest videos are demonstrating resonance only as demonstrated few months ago? Whats a problem with inverter?
If I am correct and if motor is DC and there is really overunity, where is a problem to use 1-4 diodes to transform AC->DC?


TinselKoala

Whether the motor is DC, or AC, or a "universal" type, makes no difference at all, because there _is no overunity_ in any of the measurements they have posted! None at all! The claims of overunity, 33x or whatever, are utterly false, and there is no such thing as "overunity in VARs", that's just silly.

When the end of this month comes around, there will be more tales of woe, more excuses (perhaps the personal illness of one of the participants prevented more work) and more solicitation of "donations"... because after all, Timmy Thrapp had one that worked, so we know self-running is just around the corner, Resonance, and Overunity in VARs after all!




picowatt

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 09, 2014, 05:42:06 PM
Whether the motor is DC, or AC, or a "universal" type, makes no difference at all, because there _is no overunity_ in any of the measurements they have posted! None at all! The claims of overunity, 33x or whatever, are utterly false, and there is no such thing as "overunity in VARs", that's just silly.

When the end of this month comes around, there will be more tales of woe, more excuses (perhaps the personal illness of one of the participants prevented more work) and more solicitation of "donations"... because after all, Timmy Thrapp had one that worked, so we know self-running is just around the corner, Resonance, and Overunity in VARs after all!

I would like to see Jamie come forward with more details regarding his time at WITTS and be more open and honest regarding the testing and measurement of the OU he claimed to have achieved with the Pa. unit he built.  I do not really understand why the QEG believers do not also insist on this. 

The two videos I have seen of the Witts generator are very consistent with power being fed to the lamp board switch via hidden wires in the wood added to the bench supports.  Note the switch sequencing and how/when the bulbs are screwed in and out (and the 60Hz output claim).

In the newer of the two videos, towards the end after the gen has been shut down when the camera man is getting close to the lamp board, the demonstrator says, "let me turn off the inverter", where it appears that he switches off the switch on the lamp board (the only other switches involved remain in frame and untouched).  You wouldn't want anyone to accidentally bump a slightly unscrewed bulb and make it flash on revealing that the lamps still have power even after the gen has been turned off!

Also, as the camera man pans about, no where is there anything that looks like the spark gaps or exciter coil in the QEG.  For that matter, neither is an inverter or "transverter" evident.  So why are these additional components required when Witts was supposedly able to achieve OU without them? 

It would be interesting to know exactly what was demonstrated to Jamie while he was at Witts.  Was some other unit demonstrated that did have an exciter coil and spark gap?  If so, did anyone think to ask why they were apparently not required in the two videos?  Was his time at Witts a prayer filled, mantra chanting, cult like atmosphere where participants are brainwashed into believing what is told and shown to them without question?  Were any "real" questions treated similarly to the bad Karma awarded at Be-Do?

Months ago I thought it might be possible that Jamie himself had been hoodwinked by trickery at Witts and altruistically believed that this technology needed to be given to the world.  But, the claims stated regarding the QEG by Hopegirl during the pre-Morocco trip fund raiser and in the subsequent interview of Jamie on PESN, sure made it sound like this was a done deal.  OU achieved and load tested!  So what has changed?  Could Jamie really have simply mixed up peak to peak and RMS?  Were his claims of achieving OU actually related to the Pa. unit he built or more so to do with his time at Witts and demos he witnessed while there?  Or, at the worst, was this all about making some money via donations, Witts on steroids if you will.

If the QEG folks believe that the QEG can be a real source of OU, do they also by extension believe the Witts videos are real?  If so, why is the extra effort and components (exciter coil, spark gap, inverter, transverter, etc) required to achieve OU with the QEG when it was apparently not required in the Witts videos?

The best thing Jamie can do at this point is either demonstrate and allow independent verification of his Pa. unit while it is achieving OU (as he stated in the PESN interview that it can do), or admit that he was either hoodwinked by Witts or simply made a mistake and mixed up peak to peak and RMS when measuring his output.

Personally, to save face, I think that at some point they will all throw Witts under the bus, blaming the whole fiasco on Witts and forcing Witts to back up their claims or at the least be discredited.  "I'm sorry that we spent all the donated money and that there is none to give back, but this is all Witts fault, they tricked us into believing something that we honestly felt the world should have for "free".  Shame on them..." (and bad karma points as well for Witts...)  Alternately, they could claim that Witts must be holding out on the "secret sauce" (which might be ideal if FTW and Witts decide to call a truce and go in on the money machine together if they haven't already).  And of course, there is always that MIB fall back position.

PW

One more thing, why in the heck is the exciter coil and spark gap in series with one secondary?  At the very least, if the exciter coil and spark gap were instead in parallel with the primary, a narrow spark gap across the primary might prevent all the issues they are having with primary insulation breakdown by limiting primary voltage, and with a proper exciter coil, they might actually be able to produce that often mentioned but never seen 1.3MHz as the gap fires.  But then again, Witts apparently managed just fine without all that... 

bolt

If you want access to "cheap" or "free"   VARS then use Rotoverter system from scrap or low cost used 3 phase standard off the shelf motors.  Even a brand new motor only cost about 200 bucks.   I dunno how much the QEG cost to build must be hundreds of perhaps couple of thousand dollars. I  tell you now i can produce  VARs  in the order of  3 to 5 KVARS from my 5 hp 3 phase motor that cost me 20 bucks from garage sale and runs on just 50 watts.  The o/p is clean pure sine VARS no squigles or double top humps!

Is it OU in this setup?  well no but for 20 bucks it pisses over any test the QEG can offer.   For a start they need 600 watts versus my 50 watts and mine makes KVAR'S :)

Best thing to do is wait till they perfected the "VARS to WATTS transverter" then we all get free energy without building an expensive Witts Boat Anchor!!




TinselKoala

@picowatt:

Thrapp has said that the exciter coil / spark gap stuff is only necessary for the first couple weeks of operation, to "condition" the device. Once that has been done these parts can be removed, they are no longer needed.

I am not kidding.

So maybe the device Timmy showed in those old videos had already been properly "conditioned". Uh-huh.


On the other hand, you need a good Red Herring to link this thing to Tesla, somehow, and what better way than to put in an aircore coil and a spark gap! Instant Tesla!