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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: synchro1 on July 28, 2014, 12:11:24 PM
@Tinselkoala,


"I will also make another loop coil with ordinary solenoidal winding but the same amount of wire, for comparison. But of course that will remove the "tesla magic" from my  apparatus".

I'll bet you any amount of money it won't work!
Before I take your money ( maybe  ;) ) I would like you to define exactly what you mean by "work" in this context. How will the solenoidal coil work differently than the TBC? I have not yet tried it, so I don't know. But you seem to.... so please, before I start, what is your exact prediction?

(No, I won't really take your bet. But if there isn't any difference that we can detect (I'll gladly do tests you suggest if I can manage them) then you can haz me a cheezburger. Fair enough?)

TinselKoala

Quote from: PCB on July 28, 2014, 02:40:31 PM
There is a recent post suggesting that successfully "conditioning" the QEG using the exciter coil to achieve OU could take weeks, months and possibly even years - various reference sources are sited to prove there point of view. They point to the fact that the exciter coil is not required once conditioned. We are now in the realm of metaphysics and religion, and this is the perfect out for Hopeless Girl and Jamie. I guess they will set up a commune or some thing on "all that land they have."
They won't have all that land very long once a good lawyer or two gets hold of this story. The people who spent their money based on the lies, false claims and promises made were defrauded, plain and simple. Just because much of that money may not have made it directly into the pockets or vacation funds of HopeGirl and James Robitaille doesn't absolve them of legal liability. In my opinion of course; I am not a lawyer. But if I were one of the builders... I would certainly be consulting with one right about now.

The "conditioning" story is the classic out. Imagine: all over the world, we know teams of QEG builders will be "conditioning" their devices -- IF they can take the HV strain without shorting out as several or many cores already have done -- for weeks and weeks, and still will never obtain any self-runner. What data will convince them that they are pissing up a rope? Somebody needs to sit down and figure that out: how will you know you have failed and that the effort is and has always been futile?  I can tell them, for a small fee of course.

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The whole thing has already gone tits up. The Florida guys have not been heard from in quite a while after posting several videos measuring reactive power. There is no further news from the UK or from any other place that built one of these boat anchors. Even South Africa which was days away from achieving resonance has been quite for over three weeks. Nothing from Canada either. I think these teams quickly realize that this is a crock of @$#% and are too embarrassed to show their face again on the be-do forum. Activity on be-do has dried up to just a few new posts each day, mostly speculating on what will happen when they achieve OU. After all if I had dumped $10K into three cores like Orlando team did I would not what to show my face again either.

I really really feel sorry for those people who have ordered cores and paid their deposits to Torelco and are in the five-week waiting period. They spent their money, or half of it anyhow, they know already that the thing won't work, but they don't even have their cores yet! That has got to hurt.

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It may be the case that these teams do share their results back on the forum but they get censored out and are never made public. I suspect they are simply cut off.

Maybe... but it is more likely that work has paused and that all eyes are turned towards Pennsylvania, waiting. Can you imagine the pressure Jamie must be feeling right now? I'd love to see a webcam streaming live from that barn/laboratory.  Of course that assumes that he is still honestly trying to make it self run, rather than adopting the real Thrapp-WITTS method of using a concealed mains line cord.

isim

@TinselKoala
- "Note that the MicroQEG automagically adjusts its resonant frequency, compensating for the changes in load,
to stay in a true resonant condition. The FTW QEG, being mechanically pumped at its resonant frequency,
will require some kind of phase-locked motor controller system to compensate for the change in the tank resonant
frequency as the load on its output changes."

Don't forget that Tesla was using the OC only to stabilise the frequency of an electric generator! The power come
from another source and efficience was not their first concern.
The OC was here to slow the system if necessary.  ;)

-" In your simulation, I imagine you cannot simulate the Tesla Bifilar winding of the primary tank's loop.
I will also make another loop coil with ordinary solenoidal winding but the same amount of wire, for comparison.
But of course that will remove the "tesla magic" from my  apparatus."

Please, make your new winding with the same inductance! Only this is pertinent, no magic tricks in a "Tesla Bifilar
winding", only inductance. only turn . With the same overall geometry...
Yes, with Maxwell, we can simulate near every winding. If you can draw it, you can simulate it!
I test that with your 3 wires air coil of your transmitter.

- " ETA: Internal dissipation: So the use of the IRF830, with its Rdss of 1.5 ohms, is probably the source of the
"problem". The IRF3205, which I started with and will use again as soon as they arrive, has 0.008 ohm Rdss. "

I run a simulation with 1.5ohm resistors in serial with the drain of each Transistor. Nothing on the phase shift.
No change in the dissipation of the transitors...
It's normal, because the commutation is with voltage and current are near zero on the drain.   
See Fig: Drains 1.5-CSR0.25-.jpg and Drains 1.5-CSR0.25-.jpg

- So now you have a 82° phase lag with your load. I get this value in the simulation, with  R2=0.918   
(serial r with the air coil=0.9ohm and 0.018ohm for the coil).
This correspond to a power transmitted of  10W and F=290Khz!
   See fig: Phase82-CSR0.25Load0.9-.jpg
Notes: Pbat=16.581W  ~ 16.52W= Total Power OC +Pgates+PQ1+PQ2
and Total Power OC = Pcsr + POC=13.208W
The Power form of   Total Power OC=0.11913   so Phi=83,2°

Q: May I know the power  of your load?

- Oscillation at the start with 35us period (F=28571Hz ) due to all the components, in particular to the two
100uH and C on the battery.
   See fig: StartOscillations.jpg

OK, may be this is enough for now!
Your cheezburger is not very far now...
@+

TinselKoala

@isim
That is really impressive! Your sim is reproducing the behaviour of my MicroQEG very nearly exactly. As my own measurements get better and your approximations of my stray impedances get better, your results and mine are converging nicely.

I will not yet report the load measurements, as I am not yet comfortable with them, nor do I believe I have yet optimized the "receptor" for the best power transfer from the primary coil. I believe that the motor/lightbulb final load should actually run better on the output of the receptor than it does by connecting it directly to the battery, when the receptor is properly tuned to the primary tank. See my video comparing bulb brightnesses for an example of this phenomenon. It is caused by the voltage boost of the system combined with the high frequency of oscillation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-hl2W86yk

I have already measured over 50 volts in a storage cap connected to a different receptor tuned to the MicroQEG.

ETA: My systems have a noticeable very slight delay before they come to full power oscillation after being switched on. This also is shown in your simulation in the last measurement! 

Here might be a good place to mention that these circuits need to be _switched on_  to the full supply voltage, rather than having the power applied gradually by ramping up the voltage. With a slow ramp-up it is possible for it not to "start" and in that event one mosfet carries the entire short-circuit DC current that the source can supply, and will fail in short order. This is also true if you try to operate without the loop or with the tank circuit otherwise open.
A fuse in the DC supply line is a good idea if you are using this circuit for anything stressful.

TinselKoala

Wee-hoo!
My order from Thai Shine just arrived in the mail.
;D
Ordered on Thursday night via Ebay, and in my box, free shipping, Monday afternoon.
So I'll be changing out the IRF830s back to IRF3205s like I started out with, and I'll put up some comparisons later on this evening.
8)