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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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TinselKoala

Here are some of my thoughts. The tank is just that: a resonant tank that can be pumped up with tiny pulses at its resonant frequency, until it is "full" or carrying as much energy as it can hold. This carrying capacity is determined by the electrical parameters of the tank and the power supply but in all cases it is quite a bit more than the supply itself can supply on a constant basis. Just like pushing a child on a swing, your small pushes timed correctly get stored in the amplitude of the swing. The electrical tank is _resonant by definition_ and in a resonating tank the phase angle is 90 degrees, as we have demonstrated in this thread and in others time and time again. The _voltage_ and the _current_ themselves in the tank are very real. How could there be the strong oscillating magnetic field that allows coupling and real power extraction, were the current not real? How could the current be real without real voltage to push it through the impedance of the inductor? They are both real, it is only the "power" product that is unreal. It is the resonant tank that creates the voltage and current rise: The inductor's impedance causes the voltage to build up before the current flows; when the current is flowing heavily the voltage drops accordingly... lather rinse repeat. So when the tank is resonating, it is causing the 90 degree phase shift by the interplay of inductance and capacitance.
In order to get any usable power out of this, one must couple into the resonance without disturbing it, by the methods Farmhand has been demonstrating.

Farmhand

But TK how do you explain the voltage and current in my tank being closer to 180 degrees and showing resonant rise on the load ?

Surely the phase shown cannot be that far off of what the phase actually is, almost 70 degrees or more.

I am stating "almost all" when I do.

And in the last setup when tuned to maximum voltage the phase indicated was close to 27 degrees, the voltage declined either
side of maximum tuning and the frequency matches the LC in the resonating L C section, I say that's at resonance. No.

I agree when the voltage and current are out of Phase by 90 degrees the real power is zero.

I've ordered some 0.1 Ohm and 0.5 Ohm CSR's as well as some new primary capacitors and some of those mosfets.

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Farmhand

Is a phase anything outside of zero to 90 degrees impossible ?

For example if we turn the math trace upside down and the phase was 20 degrees rather than 200 degrees then what ?
Is the tank consuming the 70 plus VA ? Nup
Is the load consuming it ? nup
Is it returned to the primary ? I doubt it, maybe some.
Is it returned to the supply ? nup can't FR blocking diode in place.

It's 84 volts and 0.98 A and the phase shows either 200 or 20 degree as far as I can tell. But I have the recommended resistors
ordered and on the way. I will also take whatever other step I need to to get reasonable measurements within my abilities.

I've been mainly joking and sarcastic, I make no claims to any accurate measurements, only demonstration results.

As I wrote, I think everything will add up all neat when everything is taken into account. That is the aim.

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Void

Hi Farmhand. I don't understand what you are trying to do.
Why do you care what is going on in the secondary tank circuit?
Why not simply measure the power into the primary coil, and the power
being dissipated by the load. What am I missing here? How are you
driving the primary coil?


Farmhand

Void, Input power is 3.72 Watts, it's from a DC supply, easily measured fairly accurately. Output power is difficult to measure, first
calculation was 0.5 Watts and the second calculation was 1.5 Watts so you tell me.

What is the output power indicated ?

I'm trying to show that "reactive power" cannot power loads. Only real power can power loads. SO far I'm doing great, even
if no one sees it yet.  :)
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Here's the basic circuit layout with no load shown.

It's an entire HF generation arrangement from stored potential energy to load for the investigation of reactive power.

I'm also showing where a lot of "reactive OU claimants" are cheating. And the effect it has on the AC generator (Grid) ect.
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And I'm using my own dang money to facilitate it.  ;D What a silly concept that is. I should be using others money shouldn't I ?
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