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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: PCB on August 21, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Did some research on this.

I did find this http://www.pure-energy.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/DispellingMythsAboutReactivePowerinResonantCircuits.pdf

Also, I noticed this calculation "83.5 VA - 78.4 VAR = 5.1 Watts ". I mentioned about fifteen pages back that this was incorrect math. You need to use vector addition and subtraction so sqt(83.5*83.5 - 78.4*78.4) = 28.7 W
Yep. And I and Farmhand are using the inductive coupling method of extracting power from the resonating tank. So what is the response of the QEG believers to that PDF?

TinselKoala

As I discovered,the difference between a wirewound resistor used as a current sense resistor and a real noninductive one like the Ohmites we have mentioned, is indeed enough to introduce a couple or three degrees of phase shift in the current measurement.

TinselKoala

Does anyone still believe that Torelco isn't fully involved in this fraud?


MarkE

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 22, 2014, 09:30:38 AM
Does anyone still believe that Torelco isn't fully involved in this fraud?
I raise my hand.  FTW is co-opting Torelco's reputation.  That's bad for Torelco.  To show complicity by Torelco, you need to find an endorsement of the QEG and/or FTW by Torelco.
This is their page for the QEG toroids:

http://www.torelco.com/QEG-Generator.html

Void

Quote from: Farmhand on August 22, 2014, 03:25:17 AM
Yes I'm using a 0.1 Ohm - 5W ceramic power resistor, inductance is 119 uH, capacitance is about 1200 pF frequency 420 kHz.

Say what?  119 uH for a 0.1 ohm, 5W  wirewound resistor? That seems to be a very high inductance if correct.
Such a high inductance for a CSR at 420 KHz could definitely throw off your scope measurements significantly. If that value of
inductance of your 0.1 ohm CSR resistor is correct and you are aware of it, then it looks like you have deliberately been trying
to make bad measurements to try to make some point?  It looks like you are deliberately running your circuit at a frequency
at which your CSR is coming into self resonance, and thus throwing your measurements way off. However, anyone with a
half decent knowledge of doing scope measurements at high frequencies would be aware of this sort of problem and
take steps to avoid it.

Just for comparison, I have a 1 ohm, 5W wirewound ceramic power resistor and its inductance  is only about 0.7 uH. Anyway, if the inductance
of your CSR really is 119uH, then it might well explain at least a good part of the strange scope measurements you have been posting here.
Sure, a person has to know how to use their scope well and be aware of various potential problem areas to make accurate measurements,
but that doesn't mean that everyone out there is making bad measurements just because there is a potential for it.  ;)
Yes, I know that there are various people out there on the internet who do make bad measurements and thus come to false conclusions about
overunity, but that doesn't make them all 'frauds' and 'scammers'. Some people just are mistaken because they don't
have the proper technical background to realize their measurement errors and incorrect assumptions. Not a big deal to me.
It is a given that many home hobbyists who are not formally trained in electronics or mechanics or whatever they are experimenting with
are going to come to false conclusions sometimes. Heck even many professional engineers and scientists can make measurement
errors or make incorrect assumptions. That's why we have a whole peer review process built into our science vetting process.
Not a big deal mate. It all works out in the wash. Either something really works as described or it doesn't.  :D