Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[MarkE]

Root Mean Square of Volts is directly proportional to average of power

Root Mean Squared voltage is directly proportional to average power, but the proportion is not fixed.  Rms voltage * rms current yields apparent power.  Where the voltage and current are both sine waves of the same frequency, rms voltage * rms current * cos(theta) yields real power and rms voltage * rms current * sin(theta) yields reactive power.

[TinselKoala]

Root Mean Square of Volts is directly proportional to average of power

I did not ask about RMS Volts or Average Power. I asked "What is RMS Power?"

The 'explanation' given in the linked video talks about RMS Power. I want to know what that is, and how it applies to anything. What is the physical meaning of "RMS Power"? Should we trust an explanation of power measurement from someone who talks to us about "RMS Power", even if he is (maybe accidentally) right about some other stuff?

[Farmhand]

RMS Power haha, I seen a small expensive portable oscilloscope in one of Mr cleans video's where he shows a value on the
scope of "RMS Power" if I remember correctly, I think it was Gyula that questioned it then, he asked what resistor he was using
and to see the menu's, so it had a Current sensing ability and calculated power based on the resistor value selected  ect.
I think mr clean claimed RMS power and the concept of RMS power was questioned by someone not sure if it was Gyula or
some other poster. Mr clean was reading what the scope said. ( by the way mr clean has multiple OU claims), almost everything
he builds he has claimed as "OU by measurement", although he was far less clueless than I was at the time regarding AC power
measurement.

RMS Power doesn't make much sense even to me. We only use "Volts RMS" or "RMS Volts" when dealing with sine waves and only
for voltage or "Voltage drop across a resistor" to determine "RMS Current" don't we ? If we apply the RMS calculation to the voltage
and "current sense" sine waves then the VA is already "RMS'ed" and everything coming from that must also be already "RMS'ed".

I can see how VA might be mistakenly quoted as P to p VA but personally I see that as a pointless value.
Any V x A I do is always RMS values for sine waves.

P.S. I got the non inductive resistors from DIGIKEY and I was wondering some things.

1) Is it Ok to take measurements with my grounded scope if the device is "Isolated", as in running from a battery and not
connected to the ground ?

2) Is there still a chance of "ground loops" at these frequencies even with an isolated scope, due to displacement ?

What would be best practice with respect to isolation for taking scope measurements on this device considering the device
doesn't need to be ground connected ?

I'm also testing extra coils in series with the "Main Tanks" to increase the voltage for fluro's, I used 200 turns of 0.5 mm wire
on an "outer joiner" for 90mm PVC, no real need to tank that coil it works a treat, now I can get over 600 mA at 12.4 volts
input while lighting a 300 mm fluro tube form one side with the extra coil and the fluro is now brighter and looks like it could
get a bit brighter yet still. So I'm making progress on the potential required at this frequency to get the fluro "properly lit up",

Still have an issue, I can't easily produce reasonable video, new phone video is very dark under lights. My old Video camera
won't export to my laptop without a small firewire connection, I've got a USB to firewire but that doesn't work for the video
camera, looks like I need a new digital video camera that uses a micro SD/SD card. grrrr. The old ways are becoming a pain.

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[PCB]

I did not ask about RMS Volts or Average Power. I asked "What is RMS Power?"

The 'explanation' given in the linked video talks about RMS Power. I want to know what that is, and how it applies to anything. What is the physical meaning of "RMS Power"? Should we trust an explanation of power measurement from someone who talks to us about "RMS Power", even if he is (maybe accidentally) right about some other stuff?

That's a stupid question TK. We both know that RMS Power is used by EE's and EEE's with an artistic bent. I personally prefer the term "Quadratic Power". I feel the use of longer and more complex words adds gravitas to what your are saying, especially when talking to the general public or would be investor.


Getting serious for moment: I think RMS power is a vestige of the audio amp wars. http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/misc/rmspower.htm  It's a meaningless marketing term, which is why Hopeless Girl and Jamie us it.

[Void]

I don't think the guy who was talking in the video used the term 'RMS power',
although I just watched the video through once and may have missed it. Whoever posted up the
video used the term 'RMS power' in the video title and video comment, but the person
who posted the video may be a different person than the person who is talking in the video. I don't know.

What the person who was talking in the video spoke about sounds about right.
Whoever posted up the video is apparently not aware of the correct terminology, so mistakenly called
it 'RMS Power'. Of course it is termed average power. The RMS values of the voltage and current
times the power factor gives the average (true/real) power for sinusoidal waveforms.

Some of you folks seem to be desperately looking for any little small thing to use in your religious crusade against
claims of potential overunity by evil heretics. Perhaps we should be preparing to burn them all at the stake? 
Long live the religious crusade! Keep holding on with deep blind faith that all claims of overunity are impossible
and are therefore automatically heresy. Keep hurling the insults and accusations of fraud and scams,
even if you have no solid evidence of such fraud, as it is all OK because our blind faith tells us that all such
claims are absolutely impossible and could never be true. Therefore, based on our deep blind faith,
we are perfectly justified in attacking all those who consider things which are not supported by our faith.
These evil unclean heretics must be attacked and completely annihilated lest horrible heretical thoughts
of overunity and free energy be allowed to spread, and cause others to potentially question the views of
reality as held by us prophets of the one and only true reality.  Burn them! Burn the heretics at the stake!
Glory to the only true reality! Death and destruction to all heretics!  We must not rest a moment until they are
completely wiped from our midst! 
Yadda yadda yadda....

Something either works as claimed, or it doesn't.
People can often be mistaken. It is normal in this world.
It doesn't mean they are necessarily frauds or scammers, although sometimes they may
turn out to be so.
Sometimes people turn out to be right about new concepts. That may
not be so common, but it is good when that happens.