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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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MileHigh

I think we know that we aren't going to get more than the party line from the Fix the World group.  I don't think there is much more to say on the technical level, it was pretty much covered as beast as could be several months ago without having any faithful replicators to work interactively with.

The next real step is for the replicators to report their results honestly and to the best of their abilities on Be-Do or perhaps even here.  Will that happen is the real question.  It seems the temptation to go dark has a stronger lure.  However, being honest trumps the temptation to go dark in my opinion.

Then there is the other problem that certainly affects perhaps the majority of the replicators.  It's the problem of jumping into something that you might be enthusiastic about but aren't really competent in.   So you have a double whammy where you have an under unity true and faithful replication and a replicator that is simply not competent to do a real analysis.  So that represents a significant psychological "double-whammy" hurdle to overcome.

It takes years of study and application to truly understand and design electronic circuuits.  It takes years of study and application to become a master chef.

A Joe Blow off the street walks into a store and buys a USB scope and all of a sudden he is a free energy researcher.

A Jow Blow off the street walks into the kitchen of a five-star restaurant and knows that he can only make toast and fry eggs and won't last half a day.

MarkE

Quote from: MileHigh on September 04, 2014, 07:03:21 PM
I think we know that we aren't going to get more than the party line from the Fix the World group.  I don't think there is much more to say on the technical level, it was pretty much covered as beast as could be several months ago without having any faithful replicators to work interactively with.

The next real step is for the replicators to report their results honestly and to the best of their abilities on Be-Do or perhaps even here.  Will that happen is the real question.  It seems the temptation to go dark has a stronger lure.  However, being honest trumps the temptation to go dark in my opinion.

Then there is the other problem that certainly affects perhaps the majority of the replicators.  It's the problem of jumping into something that you might be enthusiastic about but aren't really competent in.   So you have a double whammy where you have an under unity true and faithful replication and a replicator that is simply not competent to do a real analysis.  So that represents a significant psychological "double-whammy" hurdle to overcome.

It takes years of study and application to truly understand and design electronic circuuits.  It takes years of study and application to become a master chef.

A Joe Blow off the street walks into a store and buys a USB scope and all of a sudden he is a free energy researcher.

A Jow Blow off the street walks into the kitchen of a five-star restaurant and knows that he can only make toast and fry eggs and won't last half a day.
Don't you see the democratizing effect of free energy research?  A Joe blow with a $100. USB scope and a $25. Arduino is just as likely to discover free energy as all the well financed folks such as John Bedini are.  That's what I like about a number of the people who do build stuff.   These are folks who enjoy the practice of trying out ideas and seeing what happens.  Russ Griese, Tommey Reed, Tinman, Farmhand are all examples of people who get their hands dirty and report openly and honestly what they see.  They don't shamelessly misrepresent that they have discovered some secrets that they will sell for $19.95 a pop.

MileHigh

Yes indeed.  I had a wonderful time playing with 74LSXX TTL chips and op-amps and writing machine code way back when.  Breadboard City.  I wasn't looking for free energy but that's besides the point.  But I threw it all out 20 years ago.  It's great fun to see circuits come to life.  The National Semiconductor applications books were great because they were such a "cheat" if you wanted to do something special.  So I built the integrator and the differentiator and got a "satisfying" result when I swept the input.  Then there was the quadrature oscillator which was cool.  You can make a Cartesian coordinate rotator with a quadrature oscillator and some analog multipliers!  You can see the atomic energy symbol on your scope display by rotating a sine wave at the right harmonic resonance.  lol  It really was fun but then then Puff the Magic Dragon effect came into play.

If there is anything I still lust for is that first generation of analog scopes from the early 90s that had the moving cursors on the display to automate measuring time and frequency.  I suspect that there was a separate beam that was on during the main beam fly-back that gave you the moving cursors and the alphanumerics.  They were so cool and I haven't ever looked them up.  If they aren't making them anymore for sure they are on eBay.  They were just beautiful!

MileHigh

Go analog!

http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/showthread.php/4996-Analog-scan-rotator?s=b7b044a5f337bcbee21d67474364412a

QuoteHi PhotonLexicon,

I want to build an analog scan rotator (for any angle, not just flip X/Y).

Mathematically:
Xrotated = X * COS(angle) - Y * SIN(angle)
Yrotated = X * SIN(angle) + Y * COS(angle)

Can I use an op-amp to compute the COS and SIN functions?

Kind regards,

weartronics

Yes you can!  (But easier if you use analog multiplier chips!)    Tinman?  Farmhand?   ;D

You will get the most mind-blowing scope displays by exploring how all sorts of frequency ratios between the rotation speed and the input frequency line up in time and space.  For example, you have your x voltage input and your y voltage input.  The output of your circuit goes to the x and y inputs of your scope.  You can start with leaving the y input at zero, and just play with the x input.   Say you put a 1 kHz sine wave into the x input with zero offset.  Then you play with the rotation frequency of your analog rotator and you will get circular flower-like patterns on your display.  In this day and age, you could probably do the whole thing on an Arduino in software.  I am assuming that they have a fast multiplication instruction.  However, just having the Arduino generate the sine and cosine waveforms and giving you the variable frequency would be perfect to use as the control signals for the analog multiplier section of your mostly analog circuit.

What will this accomplish in the quest for free energy?  That is for you to find out.  Perhaps excite the QEG with a set of quadrature sine waves and that puppy will take off!  lol

P.S.:  A sneak peak....

QuoteYou need 4 - 4 quadrant multiplier chips - we used to use the AD532 from analog devices. You can certainly use opamps to generate the sin/cos signals - it's called a quadrature osc. As an alternative a joystick moving in a circle does the same thing and allows you to "perform"...

Farmhand

Quote from: MileHigh on September 04, 2014, 07:03:21 PM
Then there is the other problem that certainly affects perhaps the majority of the replicators.  It's the problem of jumping into something that you might be enthusiastic about but aren't really competent in.   So you have a double whammy where you have an under unity true and faithful replication and a replicator that is simply not competent to do a real analysis.  So that represents a significant psychological "double-whammy" hurdle to overcome.

It takes years of study and application to truly understand and design electronic circuuits.  It takes years of study and application to become a master chef.

A Joe Blow off the street walks into a store and buys a USB scope and all of a sudden he is a free energy researcher.

A Jow Blow off the street walks into the kitchen of a five-star restaurant and knows that he can only make toast and fry eggs and won't last half a day.

This is not a 5 Star restaurant or even close equivalent.  :D You're walking into a roadside diner and expecting 5 star meals ?

Take the chef from the 5 star restaurant and put him in the busy diner and he wouldn't last past the first paycheck if even an hour.

No chef will convince me that I am not a good cook, I've been served up food from qualified chefs that should have put in the rubbish bin, but I rarely cook a meal that others don't like.

Some qualified chefs just ruin good ingredients.

Similarly I can build and use stuff electricians I know do not understand. They are not electrical engineers of physicists but nor
am I.

When a trained man like MarkE looks at my drawing and tells me he sees no flyback protection on my primary when it clearly
has a capacitor across the switch for just that tells me that even trained folks miss stuff.

No one on this thread has shown any input to output measurements at all except me, even though mine were not accurate
to date, (correct me if I'm wrong).

Seems I don't rate a mention with the other experimenter guys so I might just make my next set of measurements the last
ones I share and just sit back and criticize some and help others while I do my own thing in private.

If people can't grasp the concept of "energy can't come from no where or no source" now then whats the point ?
There is no OU as far as the big picture is concerned, there is only the utilization of existing energy for free or cheap.

Even posting on a site called OverUnity should cause people to carefully define what they mean by "OU" and they should be
able to explain it simply. To me actual Over Unity would need to involve the creation of energy or some "thing" from nothing
eg, 2 come from 1. But that is impossible so I struggle to justify to myself why I even post on these sites anymore at all.

And that begs the question. Haven't you trained guys got something better to do ?

My experiments to me are fun and very enlightening even though I have never claimed any OU. (except in jest.. joking)

In other words to use the Chef analogy.

I've learned enough that I don't need anyone to cook for me in order to eat well from the raw ingredients.  ;D
If I want someone to rate my cooking I'll ask as i usually do. Don't like my food don't eat it, doesn't mean it's contaminated
sustenance though just because people don't like it.

Bottom line is in my opinion these types of forums need two separate sections, one for people who want to create energy, and
a separate one for people who just want to harness energy for free.

The two do not mix well, and I don't need to be a cocktail "engineer" to see that.

Many of us experimenters have broken bodies/physically disabled, if we didn't then many of us would not even have time to post
not to mention do so much experimenting. I intend to try to get some accurate in to out and activity measurements when I am
well enough and post them here, but I doubt I'll be sharing much in future on any OU type forum unless I have practical advice
or a useful comment for those who want to harness energy for free or cheap.
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Just for kicks an I mean no disrespect as I respect knowledge, but what would be a good analogy of an electrical engineer posting on a OverUnity forum. A swan in the chicken coop ?
If it was my coop I'd say the swan was out of place.  ;D

In a busy chicken coop sometimes eggs get broken and chooks drop dead, but it doesn't phase the chooks, only the keeper.  ;)
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