Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[MarkE]

Joe is not serious.  He is playing the Monty Python "Argument Clinic" game.

[PIH123]

"O.U. devices "working for 30 years"?  Where is your evidence for such a silly statement?  Just show us one...just one...that is all we would like to see.  You just claimed that there are "a lot" of them so this should be easy for you to do.  You will not be able to do this because there are NONE.  Not one single device that has been proven to be overunity...period.  So just name one and show the proof and we will all be thrilled."

It is all over the INTERNET and I don't have time to spoon feed you the information that is 100% common sense out there all over the inter from bits and bits and bits and bits gathered and put them together.

A very well known fact that you can go see for your self and take pictures and maybe buy one and reverse engineer is the "bloom box" which Google and other companies have them.............

Joel, sorry to be a pain, but could you help me out here a tad.
MY version of google seems to be broken.

The only verifiable thing you have mentioned so far that is an OU device, is the bloom box above.

So I searched high and low for it on the "internets".

The only one I could come up with, is one that is claimed to be 50% efficient by its manufacture.
see : http://www.cnet.com/news/parsing-fact-from-fiction-with-the-bloom-energy-box/
"Bloom Energy says that its fuel cells convert about 50 percent of the energy in incoming fuel into usable power"

Can you direct me to the "other" one you found that is OU?

Thanks

[Farmhand]

Might be best to get Joel's definition of "Over Unity" first. By OU he could just mean more energy is harnessed and made to
perform work over and above the input directly provided by us. However if energy enters the system from outside it immediately
becomes an open system and energy entering the system doesn't mean anything more than collecting energy by any other
environmental means, all environmental energy harnessed over and above the "input directly provided by us" can be considered
over "1" with "1" being the input energy amount provided by directly by us to the device that has a greater output than what is
provided by us.

No Laws are broken with that type of OU because it is an "OPEN" system with input provided by the environment at no cost per
unit of energy.

Now if by some miracle the QEG was to harness some energy from the Quantum environment around it then some kind of local
environmental changes should be noticed most likely to do with temperature. The energy must come from some where and
change the local conditions in some way.

The way I see it that is the only kind of OU possible. So this thread will not ever show any other kind of OU. Energy cannot be
made.

On a side note the "Ergon Energy Company" runs adds here regularly claiming that they "make energy fresh every day" and it
is a company with many electrical engineers, they make a claim on National TV that they Make energy fresh every day like
bread and yet no one is getting on their case even though they are broadcasting that absolutely ridiculous and reckless
statement on National TV.

Should I try to record the Advertizement and post a link to it ? It's a claim of "making Energy" by a Energy company, making
people think energy can just be made, no need to conserve it, as long as they know how much we need so they can make the
right amount each day is the point they are making. Pathetic, why not just say "power" is what they Make/generate.

No wonder so many think so much funky stuff.

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[F_Brown]

Well,

What have I missed in the last 70 or so pages of discussion?

In the time I was gone, I've managed to pass with 100% correct scores the technician, general, and extra class amateur radio license tests.  There were a couple of interesting things I ran across while studying for the tests:

1) Reactive Power is defined as wattless power, which is a bit of an oxymoron, although that means that there is zero dissipation of energy.  If there is zero dissipation, zero use can be had from it.

2) The power factor of the voltage and current in a circuit is the cosine of the angle that the voltage and current are out of phase.  If the voltage and current are out of phase by 90 degrees, then the power factor is zero.  That means regardless of however much voltage and current there is in the circuit, there is zero joules useful energy there to be put to work.

I am quite amused to see this topic is still being so actively discussed.

Fred B

[joel321]

The Hoover Dam is a hydroelectric power plant. The "Quantum Energy Generator" that is the subject of this thread is a variable reluctance parametric oscillator, and does not involve water at all, is mechanically driven by a big honking ELECTRIC MOTOR that could even run on some of the electricity generated by HOOVER DAM. Hoover Dam is big and has a road across it. The QEG is small, fits in your garage and is potted in plastic. The HOOVER DAM is NOT a QEG.

Quantum energy generator?

Quantum = In physics, a quantum (plural: quanta) is the minimum amount of any physical entity involved in an interaction. Behind this, one finds the fundamental notion that a physical property may be "quantized," referred to as "the hypothesis of quantization".[1] This means that the magnitude can take on only certain discrete values.

The minimum amount any physical entity is involved in. Apply that to the hoover dam and it is a QEG....unless I'm missing something? The scale of the size does not matter since we have atoms with electrons rotating around them with out a lithium battery. Why? Because the battery it's its surroundings. Simple.

You cannot provide any reference for this claim. Go ahead, provide some link that supports this contention that "the army" posted such a statement. You cannot. "Do some more digging".... No, YOU MADE THE CLAIM, it is up to you to support it. I can claim that the Moon is made of Green Cheese, NASA issued a press release last month. Did you miss it? DO SOME MORE DIGGING.
See what I mean? You make a claim, YOU must support it if you want to be taken seriously. But I can tell that you don't, really, since your posts are off topic and make these unsupported claims time and time again.

Well I'm not the type to spoon feed food. If you are not capable of seeing the facts in front of your face, too bad. They are out there 100%. What will I gain if I take the trouble to convince you? At the end of the day you will just say "yes, you makes sense" after wasting my energy to convince you...no thanks. But I do speak about it because it is 100% facts.

What guy? What mystery? Where is your support for this claim?

Well if your intentions where more open minded, I would spend the ENERGY to dig up the facts, but you don't persuade me to do it...so just take my word for my good intentions or not....I'm pretty sure if I show you the evidence, you will thrown a skeptical flag on the field. Then we go back to me trying to convince you the OBVIOUS FACTS!

Your problem is that you are trying to connect unrelated things, like the FTW Quantum Energy Generator fraud that is the topic of this thread, with the Hoover Dam and your unsupported claims about running cars on water.

Well everything is connected together....all life is made in the same pot. Your problem is that you someone how don't see how the universe is all a big home made mama soup. The world is a geometrical puzzle. Everything is connected to everything. When it stops being connected, then it dies and gets recycled.

Are you still talking about hydroelectric powerplants like the Hoover Dam? As has been explained to you, the energy for that electricity comes from the sun. It's pretty clear to me that there are people posting on this thread that know a whole lot more than YOU know about "where the energy comes from".


You still have not been able to provide one single reference or link that demonstrates any of the "free energy" or overunity devices you say are so common. Why not? I know why, and so do many other people reading this thread. YOU CANNOT !

Please tell me you don't want free energy!!! That is the goal of all animals and the ONLY reason there is EVOLUTION due to free energy.....please clamp your nose to not breath FREE air for a 5 minutes to understand the FREE energy. How is not air free? Hmmmm...lets call it "renewable"! Then if becomes a commodity.