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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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Groundloop

Quote from: MileHigh on December 08, 2014, 03:53:44 PM
I will give you a simple answer.  I will assume that the core is not saturated in all cases.  I will assume that the dimensions of the coil do not change.  The permeability of the core affects the inductance of the coil as "seen" by the coil.   If you add more core material, then the permeability of the core will not really change, as "seen" by the coil.

So the simple answer is nothing changes.

If you think of the core as a "tank" to sore energy then think if this:   You have a 5-liter tank that is filled with two liters of water.  Now you change to a 10-liter tank, but it still is filled with two liters of water.   Nothing has really changed.

The water represents the stored energy in the (coil + core) combination.

MileHigh

Mile,

Thank you, that was a clear answer. There is one thing that will change and that is the resonant
frequency of the L/C circuit. If will go down when you add the core material.

Thanks,
GL.

MarkE

Quote from: Groundloop on December 08, 2014, 03:41:22 PM
Mark,

It IS a very simple question, there is just one coil with a ferrite core and one capacitor in parallel with the coil.

First we connect an oscillator to the L/C tank circuit and store some energy into the tank circuit, then
we disconnect the oscillator. At the same time we increase the Ferrite core to double size and connect
the tank circuit to a load to measure the output. Will the output be higher or lower than the energy inputted
into the tank circuit when we increase the size of the ferrite core?

I do not think I can explain it simpler than this.

GL.
Inductance per turn goes down, stored energy goes down.  Work was done "pulling" the extra core material into the Terminator Inductor.

Groundloop

All,

Now the next question.

Do we need to use any energy to switch a AC signal from L1 and to L3 by shorting the L2 coil?
(I know there will be some losses and the output will be lower than the input signal.)

GL.

Groundloop

Quote from: MarkE on December 08, 2014, 03:58:25 PM
Inductance per turn goes down, stored energy goes down.  Work was done "pulling" the extra core material into the Terminator Inductor.

Mark,

Thanks, so if we do the opposite, take away core material, then the stored energy will go up?

GL.

MileHigh

Quote from: Groundloop on December 08, 2014, 03:58:21 PM
Mile,

Thank you, that was a clear answer. There is one thing that will change and that is the resonant
frequency of the L/C circuit. If will go down when you add the core material.

Thanks,
GL.

Yes, because you now are in the real world and you deviate from my idealized response to you.  The assumption is that adding core material will marginally increase the permeability of the core due to the increased amount of core material.  Therefore the inductance will increase and then the resonant frequency will go down.

But during this whole discussion your information about the geometry is incomplete because you don't say anything, nor do you describe your own setup.  In the real world you must have all of the information.

For example, suppose the core is a cylinder that is 2.0 cm in diameter and 10 cm in length.  You measure the inductance of the coil.  Then you add a hollow cylinder of core material that fits over the original cylindrical core so that the new core is a solid cylinder that is 2.5 cm in diameter and 10 cm in length.  If you do not saturate the core in both setups then the difference in measured inductance between the two setups will probably be less than 1%,

MileHigh