Magnet motor theories

[Smudge]

Here is some food for thought on magnet motors.  I personally witnessed the Yildiz motor at Delft University, and although it is possible it was a scam I do not believe so.  In any electically conductive permanent magnet it is known that the conduction electrons become spin polarised from interaction with the ion magnetic dipoles, hence the conduction electrons contribute to the magnetization.  If those conduction electrons are shifted to one side then the magnet gets slightly lopsided but without any physical sideways movement of the magnet.  Maybe this happens in magnet motors where induction by movement through the magnetic field of another magnet causes the effect.  The electron movement is likely to show as a surface effect where surface charge, being spin polarised, is also surface magnetization.  This is known as the Magneto-electric Effect which is being studied in nano-systems as a means for electic control of magnetization.  However IMO it is not confined to small systems and will occur in large systems also.  Whether the effect is significant remains to be seen.  The attached paper tells the story.  Enjoy!

[raburgeson]

The geometry and placement control of the magnets is probably critical. Just like a gravity wheel there has to be an balance of power to keep the device running. More magnets must be pushing and pulling than those working against it. This probably can be done. It has not been done by anyone that was put on the shelf.

[Smudge]

The geometry and placement control of the magnets is probably critical. Just like a gravity wheel there has to be an balance of power to keep the device running. More magnets must be pushing and pulling than those working against it. This probably can be done. It has not been done by anyone that was put on the shelf.

Magnets pulling and pushing is a naive approach to what actually goes on within magnets.  It is easily shown that it is possible to extract energy from the electron spins inside magnets, but the problem is that energy generally gets clawed back over a full cycle.  Because there is this lack of overall energy gain the energy flows to and fro are ignored and not even mentioned in electromagnetic texts and certainly not taught in college.  But that energy flow is real, and it flows to and from the quantum domain that is responsible for keeping electrons spinning.

However it may be possible to break that claw-back reciprocity if magnetization can be controlled by means other than the supply of a magnetic field.  The magneto-electic effect is one such means whereby magnetization is controlled by an electric field, and this is being actively explored for obtaining magnetic storage at lower power cost than conventional means that use magnetic fields to do the switching.  That possibility of going round a square BH loop and not consuming the energy contained within that loop is IMO a tacit acceptance of OU by the scientific establishment.  So I think it possible that the magnetization shifting that comes from the E=vXB motional induction breaks the reciprocity of energy flow to and from the quantum domain.

[Bob Smith]

However it may be possible to break that claw-back reciprocity if magnetization can be controlled by means other than the supply of a magnetic field.  The magneto-electic effect is one such means whereby magnetization is controlled by an electric field, and this is being actively explored for obtaining magnetic storage at lower power cost than conventional means that use magnetic fields to do the switching.  That possibility of going round a square BH loop and not  consuming the energy contained within that loop is IMO a tacit acceptance of OU by the scientific establishment.  So I think it possible that the magnetization shifting that comes from the E=vXB motional induction breaks the reciprocity of energy flow to and from the quantum domain.

Smudge, do you think multiferroics such as Iron Oxide or Copper oxide might have this kind of capacity for "clawing back" some of the to-and fro movement of magnetic fields?  Here's an interesting presentation among the growing number on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KfySbeVO4M
I can't help but wonder if the rusted iron wires in Stubblefield's earth batteries was accomplishing this task vis a vis the earth's own magnetic field.
Bob

[TechStuf]

http://www.vasantcorporation.com/

George Bugh sent me one of his books.  A lot of thought went into his research.


TS