The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.

[forest]

oh, I see too much fuss here . Please don't be disrupted by false theories. Keep it simple.I think that video link poste said very much the principle. Mass free falling in air do not load the wheel (?), but the impact has more energy because the potential energy is converted to kinetic and that constitutes the addition force to the normal mg force. Except that I have still no idea how to contruct device, but frankly I'm the one the less interested (only curious). For me it will still be a toy even if running continously due to various factors (mass, loud, costs, mechanical parts wearing). But I'm all ears.... 

[Farmhand]

If we sit a bucket of water on a scale which is on a platform that can be raised very quickly, and we do cause the platform to raise at a rapid rate then the scale will show an increased "weight", however the mass of the water is unchanged. Weight is relative to gravity and motion in relation to that gravity I think, though I don't think mass is. An object in zero gravity has no measurable weight but the object still has mass as far as I can tell.

It is gravity that causes a mass to show "weight".

A man travels to the moon and takes a scale with him, on Earth he weighs 90 kilograms by the scale, but on the moon he weighs less by the scale. He is still the same man and the same mass when he returns to Earth he will weigh more again. Weight is a relative measurement I think.

If we have a ferris wheel with a person on a scale in each cabin then as the cabins begin their upward movement the scales in those cabins will read more when the cabins begin to make their downward movement the scales will read less. The scales measure weight which is influenced by gravity and movement.

For a wheel to continue to spin there must be energy applied to it to make it happen, from somewhere. Any self turning wheel should be capable of self starting if it is possible

Cheers

[forest]

Farmhand


KISS, remember ? Take 90kg mass and put gently on sand , then measure how much sand will sink, then fall this mass from the 1 meter above and compare.
Then see video link (already posted here ) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-MyYwSLt3c


P.S.  I was eager to propose other experiment with your foot, please forgive me     

[Pirate88179]

Farmhand


KISS, remember ? Take 90kg mass and put gently on sand , then measure how much sand will sink, then fall this mass from the 1 meter above and compare.
Then see video link (already posted here ) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-MyYwSLt3c


P.S.  I was eager to propose other experiment with your foot, please forgive me     

You left out the part where you LIFTED the 90kg mass 1 meter above the sand.  That took energy and imparted that energy as potential energy to the mass.  When it falls, due to gravity, the potential energy will be released (or converted to kenetic energy) and the resultant "hit" upon the sand will be equal to the energy added by YOU when you lifted it minus the drag from air friction.

You can not leave out one side of the equation and expect an accurate result.  ALL energy input must be accounted for.

Bill

[forest]

Sure, but did you watched video ? Once mass is in air the lever or any other more complex type of levers connected to wheel are FREE from load of this mass, if you build device for such situation , i.e. to become balanced WHEN this mass is in air (falling due to gravity) then it become continously unbalanced except the moment when mass is falling, it may be descripted as continous falling down due to gravity. Then surely the impact of this mass on the propel lever (!) will thow in air another mass and so on...
Never falling down mass....