The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.

[centraflow]

No, gravity is not "used up". Just as you can use a safe to store your cash, you can "use" gravity, or rather _relative position within a gravitational field_ as a place to store your energy. Do you expect to get more cash out of a safe than you put into it? If you give the safe to someone else, transferring potentials, will she be able to get more cash out than you put in? Of course not silly... you get out what you put in, minus losses. (It costs a little bit to open and close the door to the safe.)

In relation to a flywheel that is totally correct, but read what I have posted above, this is the relative position of the gravitational field, in other words move the field and not the mass, the mass will follow the field on it's own.


Can this be done? I say yes it can and has been done. The mass can be huge and take a lot of energy to move it, but if the gravitational field is moved with little energy, well think about it!!!!


regards


Mike

[camelherder49]

How important is it to put a cost on tapping into gravitational force that
is free for all to use, in the first place?

[MarkE]

If you move the center of gravity in relation to a mass, and that mass is able to react to that change, then work will be done by that mass. Now we have to expend energy to move that center of gravity (you get nothing from nothing), but, if the amount of work needed to move that center of gravity is smaller than the work obtained by the mass reacting to that change, then you have an energy gain.


The thing is the movement of that center of gravity, in relation to that mass, must not see directly that mass, it is only that mass that sees the center of gravity has moved and not in reverse, if in reverse then you will have an energy loss.


regards


Mike

There is no moving masses in a gravitational field without exchanging work. 

[MarkE]

In relation to a flywheel that is totally correct, but read what I have posted above, this is the relative position of the gravitational field, in other words move the field and not the mass, the mass will follow the field on it's own.


Can this be done? I say yes it can and has been done. The mass can be huge and take a lot of energy to move it, but if the gravitational field is moved with little energy, well think about it!!!!


regards


Mike

The field is a function of the masses.  There is no known way to separate one from the other.

[MarkE]

How important is it to put a cost on tapping into gravitational force that
is free for all to use, in the first place?

Force is not energy.