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Lasersaber strikes again. A joule thief king ?

Started by hoptoad, May 01, 2014, 02:54:40 AM

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wattsup

@all

I would like to post this here for @lasersaber or others to consider.

When you have arrived at a base circuit such as those shown by @LS, you may be asking, "OK, what's next?, How can I bring this to the next level?".

May I propose that a good next step would be to try and integrate the TOP diagram below as is or with any variations while in keeping with the spirit of the diagram in order to now work with damped pulse waves instead of the undamped method presently used.

I am putting this here because although the TOP is a simple concept, it requires some pretty skilled EE savvy to keep it going with certain peripheral components that will need to be added around the transistor/mosfet to keep it from burning up. Since the @LaserSaber circuit is working in small voltages and micro amps, the burning up problem should not be that much of a concern but the overall payback using damped wave may prove to be the OU method required.

WHY?

Consider that L1 is being used simply as a source of high inductance where the coil will "charge and discharge" into L2 like a sling shot when the transistor produces a short. L1 also becomes the source of added ambiant coil and core re-bias so ether (aether) has a way of entering the system at a point other then the L2 main working transformer primary and its output secondary L3.

This method is very potent. I have had some bad shocks while working with this and it is easy to underestimate the level of output available. My EE acumen is too limited to push this forward myself as I was doing this at low frequency with relays or reeds.

I am convinced that if some top qualified guys (more qualified them me - that's for sure) put their efforts into integrating such an old damped wave concept into existing more linear systems or loop systems (like @LS or JuleThief devices) using simple pri/sec transformers or toroids, by using the L1 in tandem, we will start to see some great results.

All the best.

wattsup


SkyWatcher123

Hi wattsup, thanks for sharing.
Perhaps like this circuit.
Will post a circuit of the joule ringer v2 hybrid also, when i finish it.

peace love light
;)

SkyWatcher123

 Here is the tesla ozone joule ringer v2 hybrid proposal, based on wattsup ideas.
Will try and add the tesla ozone part on the ringer v2 version later today, since i have that already setup in front of me for tests.

peace love light
;)

alejandroguille

Quote from: SkyWatcher123 on June 11, 2014, 03:43:27 PM
Here is the tesla ozone joule ringer v2 hybrid proposal, based on wattsup ideas.
Will try and add the tesla ozone part on the ringer v2 version later today, since i have that already setup in front of me for tests.

peace love light


You could tell the performance of this circuit?

wattsup

@Skywatcher123

Nice work. I think you will need to reverse the + and - of the battery on both of your diagrams. Also always indicate that the first coil on the battery negative side needs to be of high inductance so there is no guessing. High inductance is what? It will depend on the coils you are driving at L2/L3 and the cap and the working frequency. I would say L1 = L2 + L3 working inductances times 2 or 3. L1 does what? Well if thin wire it becomes a negative resistor that gets shorted to the B+, on open it discharges creating a 2nd pulse, plus the L1 inductance will help recharge the discharge cap much faster and higher. Just keep your hands away when it runs. Always turn it off before doing any mods to the setup especially if you are trying new frequencies.

The L1 secondary you drew in is OK as long as the higher inductance coil, be it the pri or the sec needs to be L1, so with the sec you can feed some step-down juice to drive the gate and a pulse circuit. So on your drawings the L1 should always be the longer
coil. The other will just be an L1 secondary.

wattsup

PS: Sorry for off topic.