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[MarkE]

You have given many insightful comments to this discussion. Thank you!

I am trying to get started muddling my way through figuring out this thing. In compiling a summation of ENERGY IN versus ENERGY OUT, it might help get me kick started to guesstimate the aerodynamic drag coefficient of a long train, say, a 100 car train. Its rolling friction will practically drop out of the equation and in the presumed absence of braking over a long haul, the dominant factor will be air drag.

I have no clue about the drag coefficient of a 100 or 200 car train. Its probly pretty low.

What do you think?   


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Actually, for freight trains, I expect that C_D is quite high.  You have the right idea though: They only pay the price of that frontal area once for the entire train.  The power loss gets amortized over a much bigger payload.

[steeltpu]

Lot's of people obtain patents that are not worthwhile.   Once a patent application has been filed the horse is to say: out of the barn.  If you believe that Ogle was murdered, it did not stop: the patent application from publishing, the patent being issued, or expiring, allowing anyone who cares to practice it to do so.  Ask yourself who has practiced or is now practicing his patent if it describes something that is valuable.  Modern fuel injectors, particularly direct injectors do one heck of a job of atomizing fuel.

The Shell story sounds a lot like urban legend.  Do you have any documentation of the deal?  Then we also might consider that robber barons rarely tip their hands.  When Goodyear, Standard Oil, and GM really did work together to eliminate the Los Angeles Red Car system, they didn't go around telling people what their intentions were.  Why would Shell tell Ogle that they intended to shelve his patent if he were to sell it to them?

i was hoping someone would ask that.   it was reported in the media that shell offered to buy his patent.  shell oil is not a car manufacturer so it doesn't take a genius to figure out why they would want to buy the patent.   keeps the car makers from being able to use it.   think shell doesn't buy such patents?   here is just one such vaporizer patent shell bought I found in a 2 minute search   pat #  3935849

[MarkE]

i was hoping someone would ask that.   it was reported in the media that shell offered to buy his patent.  shell oil is not a car manufacturer so it doesn't take a genius to figure out why they would want to buy the patent.   keeps the car makers from being able to use it.   think shell doesn't buy such patents?   here is just one such vaporizer patent shell bought I found in a 2 minute search   pat #  3935849

The media reports lots of things, some of them quite dubious.  But Shell did not buy his patent did they?  As for patent 3935849, it is indeed assigned to Shell.  Now your task is to show: 1) the patent offers a real benefit, and 2) that despite that benefit, Shell shelved the device.  It has been public domain since around 1991.  In the past 23 years who has used it?  Or if no one has, why not?

[gravityblock]

sarkz   people on the internet rearrange letters in their name like anagrams to hide what they are really saying or their agenda.  letters in your name rearrange to nazi krees.   just thought you might have a hidden agenda but we won't go on about that.

Of course sarkeizen has a hidden agenda, and his screen name and postings are evidence of this.  Gwandau, a user on this forum, goes to great lengths to hide his agenda.  The letters in 'gwandau' has been inverted and reversed to hide his true agenda.  He inverted the 'n' and the 'u' which says, 'gwaudan' to mimic the sound of "God" (gwaud) and "garden" (gwaudan).  He also inverted the 'w' which would then say a "man".  Then if you throw out the first and last letters of 'gwandau', to represent the beginning and the end, you then have an inverted and reversed sound of 'aduam' to mimic the sound of "Adam".  Thus, he is saying the serpent ['gwandau'] was in the form of God inside the garden of eden to deceive Adam.  Then there is 7 letters in 'gwandau' to represent perfection which he has inverted.  He has inverted all Truths.

Gravock   

[CANGAS]

The media reports lots of things, some of them quite dubious.  But Shell did not buy his patent did they?  As for patent 3935849, it is indeed assigned to Shell.  Now your task is to show: 1) the patent offers a real benefit, and 2) that despite that benefit, Shell shelved the device.  It has been public domain since around 1991.  In the past 23 years who has used it?  Or if no one has, why not?

WOW! You're good, Marky!

But, you have tipped your hand. 


PS  You're on the right track if you realize that "tipped your hand" is poker talk.


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