Current ridicule

[Pirate88179]

Well, that 300 mpg VW would not pass US collision standards and China, has none of those.

For less than $500, I built a 150 mpg vehicle.  It works and I used it a lot.  I could never sell it as it would not pass the required safety standards, even for a motorcycle.  (Motorized bicycle)

This is not big oil doing this, it is all of the liberals that think the government should protect all of us from ourselves.  Who banned trans fats?  Was that Big Trans Fat inc.?  No, it was a bunch of liberals that just can't keep their nose out of everyone's business.  If the medical industry and big pharma are so influential, then why were trans fats banned?  That would have generated big money for drug companies and hospitals no?

Why are cigarettes being banned everywhere?  Just look at all of those cancer cases that would need chemo drugs and hospital care.

A buddy of mine just bought a new (new to him anyway) 1980 VW Rabbit Diesel that gets 55 mpg.  He had one in college and I remember that car well.  Now, you can by a hybrid Prius for like what...$40,000?  That stupid thing gets like 40 mpg and they are proud of this?  But see, that old Rabbit would not come anywhere near meeting today's safety standards, but it is grandfathered in so he is "allowed" to drive it. (for now) 34 years later and we still can't have a vehicle that gets the same, or better mileage than that old Rabbit?  Again, it is not big oil stopping this, the leftists are just trying to make sure we do not hurt ourselves.

I am tired of it to be honest.

Bill

[sarkeizen]

Yes, let's look at the survival rate.

Uh...were you going to actually show it?  3% "cure" rate means nothing.  Farther down it seems to say that they actually meant 5 year survival rate.  So what is 3%?  Is that the average across all cancers?  Is that the average across all cases?  Is that the average adjusted for cases where chemo is indicated?

For example the average 5 year survival for a case of AML is 23%.  Ever think of getting statistics from some place other than a garbage can? 

This will give you an idea how big the lie is.

It seems to be someone who doesn't know what they are talking about pretending they do.

http://reachingutopia.com/cure-for-cancer-found-in-canada-dichloroacetate-dca/

There are several cures all kept off the market.

*sigh* I can not stress enough how different petri dish science is from animal trials is from human trials.  DCA might have clinical merit.  There was one trial that was completed in August so we might see some good data.  If we are lucky there will be some effect but in general effect size is reduced as you move up the hierarchy of evidence.  Strong effects in a petri dish generally translated to much weaker effects in humans.

So there's no conspiracy, nothign being kept off the market.  In fact if anyone was hindering DCA as a real therapy.  It is people like you.  Do you know how hard it is to find researchers for a drug trial that is being sold off-label on the internet?

Have you thought of the claims of superior high tech medicine when they still have no cure for the common cold or any type of virus?

There are many things which make rhinoviruses hard to vaccinate against.  One would be the enormous number of serotypes. Today we have anti-virals which can treat a rhinovirus but there's little reason to use them except perhaps on the immunocompromised.

Why is Chemotherapy still high in price after the patent has obviously ran out?

Chemo isn't one drug, so there isn't one patent.   Paclitaxel is available in generic form.

How about measles breaking out on kids the have been immunized?

Immunizations are not perfect but they do have a much lower fatality rate than the disease.  However again, people like yourself which propagate nonsense are correlated to lower immunization rates.  Which means when someone does manage to get infected they have a much higher chance of infecting someone else.

In particular there was a particularly moronic parent who brought their unvaccinated child into the ER for some seemingly unrelated issue.  Almost accidentally they were diagnosed with measels.  Which means, everyone had to be informed that they were exposed.  Including all the mothers with children who are not eligible for vaccination.  All endangered because of one stupid parent.

Should these be manatory?

As long as vaccination rates remain high.  I don't mind that people have a choice to act stupid.  If they get low I'd support mandatory vaccination.

What disease have they cured in the last 50 years?

Define "cure".   As I mentioned earlier it's not a word that's used in actual science very much.

[Cap-Z-ro]

Have they worked out all the bugs in their new fast acting "organic" chemo yet ?

The only known side effect so far is schlight anal leakage.

Regards...

[MarkE]

Well, that 300 mpg VW would not pass US collision standards and China, has none of those.

For less than $500, I built a 150 mpg vehicle.  It works and I used it a lot.  I could never sell it as it would not pass the required safety standards, even for a motorcycle.  (Motorized bicycle)

This is not big oil doing this, it is all of the liberals that think the government should protect all of us from ourselves.  Who banned trans fats?  Was that Big Trans Fat inc.?  No, it was a bunch of liberals that just can't keep their nose out of everyone's business.  If the medical industry and big pharma are so influential, then why were trans fats banned?  That would have generated big money for drug companies and hospitals no?

Why are cigarettes being banned everywhere?  Just look at all of those cancer cases that would need chemo drugs and hospital care.

A buddy of mine just bought a new (new to him anyway) 1980 VW Rabbit Diesel that gets 55 mpg.  He had one in college and I remember that car well.  Now, you can by a hybrid Prius for like what...$40,000?  That stupid thing gets like 40 mpg and they are proud of this?  But see, that old Rabbit would not come anywhere near meeting today's safety standards, but it is grandfathered in so he is "allowed" to drive it. (for now) 34 years later and we still can't have a vehicle that gets the same, or better mileage than that old Rabbit?  Again, it is not big oil stopping this, the leftists are just trying to make sure we do not hurt ourselves.

I am tired of it to be honest.

Bill

The nanny state stuff does get old.  The current vitriol against E-cigarettes is some crazy stuff.  However, with cars everyone enjoys lower insurance rates because bodily injury and death claims per person and per mile driven have gone way, way down.  Tens of thousands of lives saved and countless injuries reduced or avoided altogether for about $50b / year in added new car costs I think is a good trade-off.  That's one place where I think government has done a public service that the public and industry would not have done for themselves.  Government regulation is also what took lead out of gasoline, and that's turning out to have an incredible positive impact on society.

[Pirate88179]

The nanny state stuff does get old.  The current vitriol against E-cigarettes is some crazy stuff.  However, with cars everyone enjoys lower insurance rates because bodily injury and death claims per person and per mile driven have gone way, way down.  Tens of thousands of lives saved and countless injuries reduced or avoided altogether for about $50b / year in added new car costs I think is a good trade-off.  That's one place where I think government has done a public service that the public and industry would not have done for themselves.  Government regulation is also what took lead out of gasoline, and that's turning out to have an incredible positive impact on society.

I don't really disagree with what you have said here Mark, A lot of folks do die on the roads and it is terrible.  My point was that it was not Big Oil that is keeping super mileage cars from the market.  I would like to think that if someone marketed an unsafe vehicle, not many would buy it and they would go under.  Maybe folks are not smart enough to do that any more?  When it comes to safety, usually there are unintended consequences.

I do not remember the statistical numbers but, we all can agree that flying commercial is far safer than driving...right?  When Airlines were told that a mother could no longer hold their infant in their lap, and had to buy a seat for the child, many parents decided to drive instead of fly as they could not afford it any longer. 

At the point the Government made this decision...guess how many kids were injured as a result of sitting on their Mom's laps in a commercial aircraft?  0.  Now, how many were injured or killed when they had to drive instead of fly?  As I said, I do not recall the number but it was way more than 0.

I would not want to have to make these decisions that affect real people's lives, for many reasons including the example above.  I just think the Gov., which is nothing more than a group of people, make many bad decisions like this all of the time because it looks good...at first.

I agree about the e-cigs.  Now our town has banned "smoking" them in buildings and businesses.  When asked why, the Mayor said that.."Well, when people see folks using these E-cigs, they might mistake them for a real cigarette and then light a real one up themselves, and we can't have that"  I kid you not.

Bill