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Overunity Machines Forum



KARPEN PILE

Started by Philip Hardcastle, May 22, 2014, 10:41:32 PM

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pomodoro

Don't think I have any pyro.  Anyway I better concentrate just on this hydro karpen for now, before I throw in the towel from stress.

The current idea I have for a sealed version is to use a cleaned out fluorescent light tube. The glass to metal seals are already there, I just need to  cut the tube close enough to the end so I can work on the electrodes . It wont be that easy but worth a shot. 

Gonna keep this karpen going for a week if it behaves,  if theres constant deterioration I wont bother with a sealed version.

profitis

Ok pomodoro.this type research involving hydrogen encapsulisation is really for the multimillion dollar funded labs with all the necessary containment equipment eg cold fusion labs or NiMH/fuel cell research labs but you can do the basics at least.focus entirely on the Pd/Ag,Pd/Cu systems now.if we can get any of those two stable in sodium hydroxide we make history here.

profitis

I also want to suggest long see-through polyethylene tubes that are easily shaped and sealed by melting shut over single-strand copper wires like in my straw-v-cell picture.you seal one side at a time and simply electrolyse for h2 encapsulization

profitis

I know for a fact that the H2 karpens can be permanently stabilized if done right,why? Because the O2 karpens are all permanently stable.

mscoffman

I have "invented" a depolarizer device as I suspect the energy source you are chasing shows
up in unconnected piezo-crystals as well. Over 24 hours a standard piezo crystal sounder will
charge up and can then be shorted to get a small pulse of free electricy. I was going to use 12
of these piezo sounders in a circle, then discharge each one sequentially every two hours to
power the microwatt motor of a mechanical digital wrist watch used as an inverse electrical
distributor. So this construct is in effect a perpetual motion clock.

There are two types of devices; one runs on it's own battery for the laboratory use. And the
other can be self powered from it's battery cell for if you want to try for Karpen's record. I'm
telling you this so you don't have to worry that such a device exists. If you need them rapidly,
one could put effort into building them. It takes advantage of the fact that a mechanical
wristwatch with a plastic face watch-crystal runs on microwatts of energy.

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I favor building this depolarizer in two parts one that does the depolization and a display
"header" circuit which can do the user display. The header can consist of a capacitor, a resistor ,
a flashing LED, and a LCD wristwatch with no battery.
resistor = dummy load to indicates that the battery cell power has not decreased significantly over time
flashing LED = that the device is producing power right now
LCD wristwatch = if the wristwatch has not reset then power has never been lost.

Karpen's electromagnetic depolarizer doesn't do each one of these well and would be complicated and
expensive to manufacture today. Other another hand production cells should use the somewhat more
inefficient semiconductor approach.

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I will leave my battery cell chracterizer machine idea for a future post.

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This power pulse effect creates a very narrow PWM window, if that could be eliminated
it would result in significantly higher average cell power. Pomodoro should not
become so enamoured with the slam-dunk-effect so that he then misinterprets
the meter pointer "sticking up there" as a bad thing.

:S:MarkSCorffman