KARPEN PILE

[profitis]

Blackened or smooth nickel foils,wire,ribbon will also give same results

[pomodoro]

OK guys, I'm officially giving up on the hydrogen karpens. Im definite that they don't work as I have performed them. The cathode always end up equilibrating to the same potential as the palladium after extensive discharging and does not recover.  The early success was due to impure hydrogen, containing small amounts of oxygen. Since we are looking at microampers, this oxygen keeps powering the cell.  Now I know that you, Profitis , think that I, thanks to you,  have discovered something amazing and am keeping it from you, but no, that is not true.  It is up to you to invest in some foolproof equipment with larger electrodes and to find out the truth for yourself. Please stay away from straws and hair thin wires.  I'm thankful to you for all the advice, you are a very smart chap with great ideas, so keep going and re do these experiments for yourself. But for the other readers I really must say what I believe is true, and that is simply that these experiments, done in the way I did, show that a potential between the dissimilar metals doesn't last in a pure hydrogen atmosphere.
Please, anyone who wants to try these for themselves, do them properly, there must be no oxygen at all, or all you are doing is 'burning' up the hydrogen on the platinum.

Nuf said.

Having said that, if the platinum electrodes show a constant differential in air, then I might investigate those further, but no more hydrogen, please.

[MarkE]

Pomodoro, thanks again for all the time, money, and quality effort that you put into these experiments.

[pomodoro]

Thanks markE you're very welcome.

[profitis]

Exellent pomodoro.although I only agree with 50% of your hydrogen results its been great many thanks.I've myself learned a good thing or 2 from this manhatten test series as have you I'm sure.let's see what your o2 results have to say.