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The Marinov Generator

Started by Smudge, June 03, 2014, 10:38:44 AM

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Smudge

Here is a paper on actual measurements on a generator version of the Marinov Motor.  The Distinti Paradox2 is a more complicated version of the same thing.  The results of the experiment suggest that energy can be extracted via movement through the magnetic vector potential, and this could be a means for gaining energy directly from electron spin.  It involves electron acceleration or deceleration in small regions of space close to magnets (in the Marinov generator the change of velocity is at the contact between brush and slip-ring).  I have another paper where that is looked at in more detail that I will also post.

Smudge

Here is another paper suggesting that science has missed a trick with regard to electron acceleration and its radiated field.  The suggestion is that DC can be induced into a coil and if this is true it opens the door to being able to "load" electron spin and draw energy.  That could explain the source of energy available from the Marinov generator.  It should be possible to experiment with coils (of many turns) close to DC brush contacts on slip rings and see whether DC induction occurs.

Smudge

Here is another paper that discusses the DC induction as applied to the Marinov Generator.  It makes the point that radiation from accelerating and decelerating electrons, where the acceleration and deceleration take place at different locations, has not really been studied before.  It also branches into the possibility of a solid state version using a superconductor, where electrons undergo a significant change of drift velocity on entering or leaving the material.

Smudge

Finally here is a paper looking at the math behind the Marinov Generator.  This takes an abitrary current loop and gives the formula for its magnetic vector potential (A) field at any point.  Then for a charge that is accelerated at that point the impulse voltage induced into the loop, hence the energy taken from the current source during that impulse, is given.  It is shown that this energy then resides at the charge in the form of a potential energy associated with its canonical momentum derived from the A field.  That potential energy is released in the form of kinetic energy when the charge moves out of the A field.   The energy balance shows that there is no OU in this situation, the final kinetic energy of the moving charge is all accounted for, but does include the energy taken from the current source.  When the current loop is replaced by a permanent magnet there is apparent OU because the kinetic energy now includes that which comes from the atomic current loops, the electron spins. 

TinselKoala

Smith is an earnest researcher but his experiments and analyses of the Siberian Coilu are not correct. Sorry. They are not correct because they do not correctly describe the phenomenology of the device _when it is built according to Marinov's design_. They could even be called "straw man" papers.

Nearly fifteen years ago now I did a comprehensive study of the Marinov SC, building half-a-dozen testbeds both static and fully mobile. One finding that I can state right now is that the _real_ SC design by Marinov, when instantiated in a REAL physical system arranged as he arranged it, is actually a weak AC  voltage generator when the magnet armature is driven externally. 

Of course if one builds an analog thinking it's some kind of homopolar motor (it isn't) then you will likely get results that look like they come from a homopolar motor: low voltage high current DC. But that's an artifact of Smith's construction, I think.

As far as I am aware I am actually the only person, Smith and Kelly and Kooistra notwithstanding, who has actually built a SC with coaxially mounted magnet armature, rotating ring "stator", and liquid metal brush assembly that can be positioned to contact either the inner or outer periphery of the ring stator. All mounted coaxially or rather tri-axially on ball bearings and free to move in either direction. The hairs on the back of your neck are guaranteed to rise when you energize the unit by turning the power supply on with a beam from a laser pointer, and you observe the ring and the armature moving in the _same direction_ in apparent violation of all kinds of symmetry laws. Only then you might notice that the power supply and brush structure are moving in the opposite direction.

I even made several continuous motion versions: the armature prefers to "lock" at the position where the magnets are at 90 degrees to the  brushes, and when this happens the ring isn't driven any more, it just coasts. So the "trick" is to pulse the power supply at the proper timing, so that the armature coasts past the "lock point" and can be given another pulse of opposite polarity so that it makes another half-revolution, also driving the ring -- in the same direction.

Even further than that, I figured out how to wind a coil set to "simulate" many amp-turns in a stator "ring" rather than only the one turn of the original. Of course in this version the stator is fixed to the frame of the motor (which I call the Marinov Slab) ... but is there a back-reaction on the stator winding/frame when the rotor is being accelerated? I'll leave that one as an exercise for the reader....

Bottom line, Smith has missed and still continues to miss the real "good stuff" of the MSC, and he appears to be simply wrong in many cases.