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Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos

Started by TheoriaApophasis, July 13, 2014, 04:20:12 AM

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TheoriaApophasis

Quote from: MileHigh on August 17, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
There is simply no point in looking at other examples without understanding the root cause for the very existence of the magnetic field.


You really are dead from the NECK UP.


I dont know what is more stunning, your ignorance, or your ignorance of your own ignorance.


Point charge   ;D ;D ;D     stop yanking my chain.


Points don't exist, girlfriend,    nobody can make a point.    Like "emptiness", its a BS fucking concept that does NOT EXIST


make a point....  ;D   You cannot do it.


takes a LINE to make a point, and takes a POINT to make a line.

get that simple shit?







You have no idea the stuff I have discovered.    I even blew my own mind out today testing a theory I thought would yield results,  .....well, it has.




Youre a lip flapping tea cozy.

d3x0r

Quote from: MileHigh on August 17, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
And the funny thing is that just about everything that Kenny has been freaking out about is answered in these two pictures.


+1 :)


I was curious about the speed of a magnetic field... and if there was any experimental information... I found a lack of experiments.


"What is the speed of the field of effect of magnetism?"
Lots of answers about 'well it's a radio wave' but it's not... that's electro-magnetic wave... but a the field from dielectrics is just magnetic... actually there's 2 fields of a dielectric... or 1, and electrostatic charge field is the same as electro-active charge .... (blah I'm no good with this vernacular.. .have to apply too many descriptors to words to write in 'the-action-of' terminology instead of just 'is-a' terms.)

in a more static behavior, charged particles exibit a field of electrostatic (van de graff generator - if you need I can demnostrate... but some of it is actually hard to show....) like your bismuth force thing, which a diagram might be more useful  (esp what's the torque force?  is it just a translation effect? {with the ring on a cylinder and bismuth demo} )  but... when a probe discharges to the globe, depending on the charge stored, there is a physical attraction on the stick, that pulls in the probe as it sparks... unless a certain distance away whee the discharge is more like a spreading haze pattern of lines instead of one large spark in the middle of where the comb discharge happens..... (a momentary magnetic attraction?)  ... i drew that once...
but anyway the large spark is attractive and the comb is hardly felt... sorta an event horizon whether the force is felt or not...
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so TA what's the reason that plates separate in say a gold-leaf electrometer?



What about an experiment to measurable the delay?

something like as if 1 moving charge passing a point, 1) how far can its detectable field extend vs the position of the moving charge generating it?  Or is it simultaneous along the full length of the conduit?  Or is the detection of it time delayed?
an amp is a really really big number...
1 nA/uS=   6241 dielectrics passing a point in space
1 uA/uS = 6241000000 dielectrics passing a point in space
I guess it's not that big...
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But that's also from a macro perspective... how far does the charge move?  If it moves in a conductive layer of metals... one would suppose it made a hop and then stopped on the next electron... Dollard started to make a comment along the lines of 'resistance causes magnetism'... 'magnetism is from a charge stopping'... but has yet to continue that thought in anything written since...

but anyway back on the experiment, if a impulse current pass a point, and had 2 offset points within the detectable range... could somehow measure whether both detectors passed at the same time or one before the other?

If the magnetic field of a moving particle inducts in something (is detected) does that particle continue to move to be detected again?

TheoriaApophasis

Quote from: d3x0r on August 17, 2014, 11:36:25 PM
"What is the speed of the field of effect of magnetism?"


the HUGE equation for that is in CP Steinmetz's work, and believe it or NOT,  nobody has EVER performed the experiment to test it.


There is a long standing "what the fuck??"   about that fact among some folks.


There is a space-time paradox in measuring magnetic field , as  Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenko writes about in EXHAUSTIVE LONG LONG DETAILS WITH NEW EQUATIONS.


The reason for that, is that magnetism is a Poincare' disk extrapolation of a charge in discharge with a resultant spatial vector but no point of temporal CAUSATIVE measurement.



d3x0r

Okay I got way side tracked.


Point charge; was entirely what my last question is about; since there is no proper definition I guess TA cannot translate the question either...


Would sora appreciate the proper terms for asking about things.


The force that affects gold leaf electrometer (thing)
the force that affects 2 wires to attract each other with opposing currents


the force that holds a balloon I rub on my hair and stick to the wall
the force that drives franklin bells...




all from a charge field.




The problem with grasping that mangetism is a result of a continuous discharge, is 'discharge' imples 2 potentials that something moves from one to the other... just like {aero/hydro}dynamics pressure gradients... something would have to keep them replenished and charging (pressurizing) as much as they are discharging...
please show a similie of single sided continuous discharge (other than a magnet as you have defined... in math we call that a 'given' )


d3x0r

If it is a discharge like radiation such as uranium or better carbon-14... what is the halflife of magnetism?  Sometime approaching infinity?