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Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos

Started by TheoriaApophasis, July 13, 2014, 04:20:12 AM

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minnie




     pinestone,
                   I've found your input very helpful. Please don't give up too easily
as there must be a lot of people who appreciate what you contribute, don't be
put off by a few,
                    John.

MileHigh

Pinestone:

Indeed, stand your ground.   I am not a big fan of Al/Acca.  He appears to not understand magnetism at all.

http://overunity.com/15448/-proof-magnets-have-a-spinning-magnetic-field/msg435057/#msg435057

Quoting myself (which he did not respond to):

Acca:

Those clips I linked to covered some basic fundamentals about how moving charges (current) interact with a magnetic field that you may have never even considered in your life.  I also seriously doubt you have considered the direction of the current flow in the water.  For what it's worth, the current flow could be mapped out using curvilinear cubes.  I also seriously doubt that you have tried to visualize how the current flowing in the water crosses the magnetic field lines in the water.

Now, if you understood the basic fundamentals, and you understood roughly what direction the current was flowing in the area around the magnet, and then you "cross" that with the toroidal shape of the magnetic field from the magnet.....  <drum roll>.... Then you would conclude that the current flow crossing the lines of magnetic flux will exert a force on the water that will make the water spin in a spiral.  In other words, just like what you see in the video with the "plasma mug."

When I saw your clips a few years ago, I crunched the observed geometry and using the basic fundamentals about how moving charges interact with a magnetic field and concluded that it made perfect sense to see the water forming a vortex because of the forces generated when the current flow does a cross-product with the magnetic field lines.  It tool me about a minute to figure this out.

So, what that means is that what you are looking at is perfectly normal.  There is no "vortex" associated with the magnetic field.  You are simply observing something perfectly normal, not understanding it, and then leading yourself down a garden path by inventing a false explanation for what you are observing.   In other words, it couldn't be any worse for you, and your whole pitch is 100% wrong.

MileHigh

TinselKoala

Quote from: pinestone on January 29, 2015, 08:16:11 AM
You are calling me a troll? Now I remember why I stayed off of this forum for 5 years. It's because of people like you who have no clue what they are reading and do not even understand the basics of magnetism. Your references are not utilizing static magnetic fields, they are for the most part using radio frequencies (RF) or decaying nuclear isotopes which make WAVES.
Good luck with your research using flawed thinking and your developmental processes.

Acca is the prototypical TROLL himself. He even went so far as to post here a photo of some poor fool who happened to use "Tinselkoala" as his alias on a dating site, in an attempt to violate my privacy by "outing" me. That's not only not nice and a violation of basic forum etiquette, it's utterly stupid. You can't even safely ignore Acca because of things like this, you need to keep an eye on him so that you will know when he tries that kind of BS.

And as you have noted, he misrepresents and doesn't apparently understand the references he cites. It's doubtful if he has even actually read them.

pinestone

Thank you all for your support.
I'm not put off but I was a bit offended. ME a troll? wow.

Time to put on the armour again ;)

TheoriaApophasis

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 28, 2015, 04:28:22 AM
There are a myriad of different experimental situations that would show a magnetic vortex _if it existed_. None of them do


Sorry asshole, it not only exists, but I can show it to anyone on earth using a ferrocell.




insert 25 cents more and try again,  youre a failure.




By the way, asshole,....... a 3D HYPOTROCHOID can ONLY EXIST as a RECIPROCATING VORTEX


Or, does that simplex geometric fact not register in your goddamn brain???


GO research what a HYPERBOLOID is, then try to DEFINE the term "VORTEX"