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[Raz]

Ohhh poor trollies... all of them came out ot once like a beehive . It seems I hurt some sensivities. Yet they are still reading Dr Myel work and trying to figure out the equations of Webster Kehr experiments to try to discredit them too. Note how they haven't even tried to talk about that ? A lot of engineering degrees and lab but can not understand how the SEG really works. And no one ever here said anything about magnetic vortices in the SEG. Still stuck on helicopters and aircraft technology that have not changed in its basics in 100 years?? LOL. And still all this valuable and intelligent know-it-all engineers are insulting and oridnary person like me in a free energy/overunity forum. Dont they know that neither of these 2 concepts are real for their religious masters?? Wait until cardinal Einstein heard about this. They are going to have to recite the periodic table of elements 100 times and pray to the relativity theory. Meanwhile real people around the world keep inventing energy related machines because no one told them it could not be done. You are a good joke. You make me laugh to no end. Just imagining all those studies and money invested and you are still in this website trying to figure out Tesla and people with more wisdom than you.

[sadang]

@Raz

Raz as I already said, here is about different worlds! Your world comprise their, but not viceversa. So, don't bother to repeat things more than the common sense of a human being require it. Trying to convince someone who don't want or are not ready to comprehend that knowledge will not help you nor him. On the contrary is a big disadvantage for both.

On the other hand you have to be ready to meet the human inertia in thinking and in behavior. Each one know and expose at his level of knowledge and understanding, and also he manifest accordingly. Pay care how you manage these relations because from each one of them you have something to learn, to feel, to sense or to realize. Just be patient and do not deviate from your way.

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@PIH123

I'm not familiar with all these things (sa you say) more than others who activate on this website should be. And thanks for introducing me to your debate with Raz, but I'll not play this game.

Regarded your last messages, it was composed based on a previous wrong interpretation of what Raz said about helicopters and also a malicious premise, namely a premise called revenge+vanity.

Let me explain how I see these things. Bellow are the quotes in their inverse order of occurrence:
- here is your quote from Raz message:
".....your modern science analysis also says that helicopters should not theoretically fly(but they do)......."

- here is the quote of the entire sentence from Raz message:
"In regard to that patent, it does look like a very early version of the Bell Osprey and your modern science analisys also says that helicopters should not theoretically fly(but they do)."

- here is the quote from TinselKoala previous message when he present that Tesla's patent and said:
"-- a totally unworkable patent concerning a flying machine that would never fly even if built with modern technology."

Now, redo by yourself these steps and stop diluting this topic. Instead try to expose an analysis of the vortices created by helicopter blades and their influence on direction and lift of it. Also, maybe talking about Coanda effect is not too distant to this topic's theme.

[Raz]

Sadang: I been trying to be polite with the trollies but even when I post something as neutral as 2 real experiments about the ether done by actual engineers and professors(to which no one here has even mention it because both experiments are above any of them), they insist in responding with slandering, opinion and insults. It does not matter what I post ,they will respond this way ,because that's what they are paid for. Still they dont answer what are they doing in a website about free energy and overunity when these 2 concepts have been "debunked"by their religious scientific dogma. I try to share useful stuff that will (maybe) start an intelligent conversation toward free energy achievement. But it is impossible to achieve with mental midgets that think they know it all because they have a degree in (insert your favorite science here). If anything I am mostly ignoring them , because they already have proven they are in the wrong place and that their degrees dont help with their education.Then I posted the SEG video(again we are in a free energy website), and they started their hate monguering. I could care less about them. Still , someone like Mr. Wheeler , who actually started this post by offering a free book, have been attacked by these same misplaced individuals. I dont pretend to change their " education "or ideas, but I think in this free energy website, anyone should be allowed to post their opinion or share what others have done without the constant hate monguering of educated dumbs. That is exactly why we come to a free energy/alternate science website, because we are looking for the alternate part. We could go to any main stream science or physics website if we wanted to disccuss Einstein or relativity. That is what the educated dumbers dont get. They are barking to the wrong tree , and anyone with 2 fingers of common sense will ask them, why the heck are you preaching science in an overunity forum? They dont seem to get that they look absolutely stupid doing so, and just giving me a good laugh. Here in overunity people come to look for Tesla ,Schauberger , Rife, Carr ,and the like ,etc. If anyone wants to discuss Eistein is free to do it, I dont mind either. But dont come here to call others liars, or any insult that science bigots preffer just because they dont understand that there is more to what their 3 brain cells can hold and preach.  I will continue to bring what I think is appropiate to the topics in a free energy website and to this post ( magnetic vortex and free energy) and to discuss it with people like you that can agree to disagree without being a hatemonguer. The rest of the trolls will only get from me sarcasm while they stupidly respond and make me laugh. Thanks for your concern. Have a good day.

[sarkeizen]

It does not matter what I post ,they will respond this way ,because that's what they are paid for.

Easy way to test this sadang.  Post what you're being asked to post but that would ruin your fantasies about paid posters.  It's interesting how much work sadang and the other sadang all have to do to avoid getting their ideas crushed.

I guess some people are just afraid of being wrong.

[minnie]

Raz,sadang,
              just give up your puerile ranting and present a bit of decent science.
I've been on this for about 10 years and nobody is paid to disrupt. Nearly all
claims so far have been blatant measurement errors. I have never seen so much
as a milliwatt of free energy, a clue is that the prize has never been claimed .
   The likes of MarkE and TinselKoala use their own time and money and loads
of patience to try and HELP others!!
     Old Meyl's work is said to be helpful in quantum theory and TA. says
quantum is total nonsense. TA sites Ferrocell images as proof but when one
looks at transformation optics reference is made to Relativity.
      There has to be some common ground with current thinking and TA's
ideas, chemistry and physics are all about electrons so is anything we think
know at the moment of any value???
   What would be a good starting point? It's a bit like a question I asked
someone, how would I get to a certain location and their reply was:
"Oh,I wouldn't start from here"
                        John.