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Acca


wattsup

@all

Hahahahahaha

What Kenny boy does not understand and eventually he will when he puts all the pieces together is that his magnet does not have a magnetic field going out of its physical confines. That is to say THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FIELD. And yes, there is no electron as well.

When you walk into a room full of people and there is a beautiful woman standing alone in one corner and you are walking around but you keep on looking towards that woman, is what you see a field, or is there a field pushing and nudging your head to turn toward that woman? NO. It is the atoms in your eye that can see that woman from a distance and your reaction is to turn and see her beauty. No field required.

If with the flick on my finger I could materialize a planet bigger then Earths and place it 100 KM above Earth what will happen. Yes, any loose matter on the surface of Earth will start dropping (rising from Earth) towards this new and greater Gravity Source. NO FIELD REQUIRED.

When you have a neo magnet in your hand and you play around with a compass and you see how the needle of the compass turns to face the dominant polarity of the magnet, is there a field involved. NO. NO. NO. It is the atoms in the needle that see this beautiful woman magnet and it simply turns towards it because it can do this all on its own. NO FIELD REQUIRED.

When a coil is energized and the compass needle turns towards it, is it because of a field exuded by the coil catching the needle and turning it. NO. NO. NO. It is the atoms again in the needle that respond to the coils new gravity source and that's how things work around the universe. You only need atoms and gravity to produce all the effects we see around us.

The field is an impostor. It was conjured up by Mr. Faraday because his bosses asked him to make a link between an energized coil and the magnetic field of a magnet because for the last thousands of years, this was and still is the prevailing belief. Who was Faraday to go against his bosses and negate thousands of years of belief.

If Faraday was hired and asked "OK Far....... your mission, should you accept it, is to investigate the energized coil phenomenon and report back with a totally impartial, unbiased and complete assessment of the potential causes of the effect. You can rest assured that WHATEVER YOU FIND AND REPORT, WE WILL NOT CASTRATE YOU." Well well well, that would have changed the story since a few hundred years.

Faraday would have seen the compass turn towards the energized coil and he would have honestly reported that the magnetic field construct is not the only possible cause. The other more direct and probable cause is what I call today as Spin Conveyance where there is no field between the coil and the compass. There is only the compasses atoms with their incredible ability to turn towards any gravity source that is stronger then Earth. The coil is basically energized and becomes a localized gravity source (LGS). The atoms in the compass will turn towards the LGS not because there is a "magnetic" attraction but simply because that coil has now become a mini planet and its gravity is greater then that of Earths where we are at the surface. The compass only wants to fall onto the coil and there is no "force" in between that is required to motivate that effect. There is only mans eyes that only want to see what it can believe and conjure up a construct to rationalize the effect that absolutely has to have something in between the two objects in order for the effect to be realized. That is were we are today and what Ken wants to do is add more layers to the false magnetic field construct because he could never rationalize anything more with his experiments which are all faulty to begin with. But he is not alone because 99.99999% of the world is like that as well.

So Faraday says its a field, then we ask how is the field making electricity move in the wires. Hmmmmm. OK, we'll say the field makes electrons move in the wire. Hmmmm. But how. OK, we better think fast otherwise this field idea will fall in the dumpster. OK, copper is made of atoms, and those atoms are covered with electrons and its those electrons that the field will make move in the wire and produce electron flow. And this great patchwork of the field, electron was born and is with us till today. hahahahaha

What this did was rob the Atom of all the glory of our effects and placed it in the hands of a non-existent field and electron. The atom was and still is the greatest hero in the universe and its abilities to respond to gravity sources, constant or intermittent gravity sources, pulsing or steady gravity sources is the basis of all our effects in the universe. Nature never overdoes anything. It will always find the most economical means to create an effect and for nature, producing a field that will permeate everything around it is nothing more then a total waste of good energy to produce what? NOTHING. Nature does not do anything for nothing. Nature already knows that the atom can see, can sense, can react all on its own, otherwise what are the chances that fields could have produced all our universe in the way it is. All we would have been is a mishmash of hell.

The field and the electron are simply impostors pushed by the Cabal who controls everything we learn on this rock. It does not mean our toys will not work, because regardless if the construct is good or bad, things will still work. It is only that our level of advancement has been stifled to the point that we are all now stuck on an energy platform that is controlled by a few.

This is where we are today. So even @Atom, if you want to know where I am at then this is it. I have studied the causes and effects and have discovered that the field is impossible.

When Telsa invented AC way back then, he had already proven that the electron flow model is impossible. You cannot have AC with electron flow. You can only have AC with Spin Conveyance that has no flow of anything. Only the nulcei is active, responds to gravity and conveys that response to the next atom, and the next atom and so on. There is no field and no electron required to do all we do today. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

There is only one experiment that is required to even give the field the slightest chance of survival and this experiment has not been done thus far or I have not been able to find anything on such an experiment. I have put it down here:

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3209.msg53505#msg53505
See experiment #1. If anyone in a University wished to do this experiment in a totally impartial manner, then you have an extreme chance of making history. I don't have the equipment required.

I have to say that what I like about Ken is his ability to make something so old look so new even though for me all his explanations are pure fantasy. He has succeeded in complicating the already over complicated with more layers of dreams. But at least he took it to its limits. I just sat around and plugged here and there and finally saw he did away with the electron (good sign) and that gave me some hope for his intellectual salvation. But for not. You see, in order to survive in the world of universal constructs, which none have thus far, you have to be able to take a construct and put it through all its paces. You become your worst critic. You attack the idea from all sides then work out the counter arguments and from there you then add a new part and start over, then add again and start over. If the construct fails at any point in that study, you modify it logically and do it all over again. It is only when that one construct can hold its own against every other effect in the universe that you can then "start" realizing you are on the right track and all of a sudden all those effects that you thought you knew about come to life in a totally new way. I have been doing that for the last 5 years. hahahahahahaha and can say that Spin Conveyance will be the next step and will lead to simple OU devices and not those world blowing devices @Atom is talking about.

Have you not ever had a bad feeling about the Earth. We say it has gravity, which it does, but then we add that it also produces a magnetic field (which it does not). Do you not ever feel uncomfortable with this double identity. One that is the original and one that was added by our imagination. We convince ourselves by sending out satellites to "map the outer field of the Earth". But we do not realize that those "conductive" or "copper wire laden" sensors are responding directly to Earths gravity and not a field that the Earth would have to expend in order to exude. Just because you get a sensor reading, it does not prove a field is existing. It only proves that the copper atoms have good eyesight and can convey what they see down the line without any of the atoms ever moving, only their nuclei will swing, sway, spin, stay, show or shoot and one will say to the next, and the next. Only the nuclei needs to do this and no electrons or fields are required. hahahahaha

Take 100 people and make them stand side by side in a big circle all holding hands. One 1st person squeezes the hand of the 2nd, the 2nd squeezes the hand of the 3rd and so on until the squeeze signal gets back to the first person. You would be amazed at how quickly that information is "conveyed" from 1st to last and starts over again. This is human speed. Imagine at atomic speed. hehehe

When you say the words "field" and "electron" know that you are robbing the Atom of its abilities and in turn the Atom is robbing you of any advancement. Action/reaction. Just like the Cabal want it.

Sorry for long post. hehehe

wattsup

Acca

 Thanks wattsup !!! That was an outstanding written post ...

https://youtu.be/JYKkJeqeMP4

Acca..

P.s. >>> and to all of you can listen to it now and see it read .. if you are too leazy..[/font]

CycleGuy

Quote from: wattsup on January 15, 2016, 02:45:17 PM
@all

Hahahahahaha

What Kenny boy does not understand and eventually he will when he puts all the pieces together is that his magnet does not have a magnetic field going out of its physical confines. That is to say THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FIELD. And yes, there is no electron as well.

When you walk into a room full of people and there is a beautiful woman standing alone in one corner and you are walking around but you keep on looking towards that woman, is what you see a field, or is there a field pushing and nudging your head to turn toward that woman? NO. It is the atoms in your eye that can see that woman from a distance and your reaction is to turn and see her beauty. No field required.

If with the flick on my finger I could materialize a planet bigger then Earths and place it 100 KM above Earth what will happen. Yes, any loose matter on the surface of Earth will start dropping (rising from Earth) towards this new and greater Gravity Source. NO FIELD REQUIRED.

When you have a neo magnet in your hand and you play around with a compass and you see how the needle of the compass turns to face the dominant polarity of the magnet, is there a field involved. NO. NO. NO. It is the atoms in the needle that see this beautiful woman magnet and it simply turns towards it because it can do this all on its own. NO FIELD REQUIRED.

When a coil is energized and the compass needle turns towards it, is it because of a field exuded by the coil catching the needle and turning it. NO. NO. NO. It is the atoms again in the needle that respond to the coils new gravity source and that's how things work around the universe. You only need atoms and gravity to produce all the effects we see around us.

The field is an impostor. It was conjured up by Mr. Faraday because his bosses asked him to make a link between an energized coil and the magnetic field of a magnet because for the last thousands of years, this was and still is the prevailing belief. Who was Faraday to go against his bosses and negate thousands of years of belief.

If Faraday was hired and asked "OK Far....... your mission, should you accept it, is to investigate the energized coil phenomenon and report back with a totally impartial, unbiased and complete assessment of the potential causes of the effect. You can rest assured that WHATEVER YOU FIND AND REPORT, WE WILL NOT CASTRATE YOU." Well well well, that would have changed the story since a few hundred years.

Faraday would have seen the compass turn towards the energized coil and he would have honestly reported that the magnetic field construct is not the only possible cause. The other more direct and probable cause is what I call today as Spin Conveyance where there is no field between the coil and the compass. There is only the compasses atoms with their incredible ability to turn towards any gravity source that is stronger then Earth. The coil is basically energized and becomes a localized gravity source (LGS). The atoms in the compass will turn towards the LGS not because there is a "magnetic" attraction but simply because that coil has now become a mini planet and its gravity is greater then that of Earths where we are at the surface. The compass only wants to fall onto the coil and there is no "force" in between that is required to motivate that effect. There is only mans eyes that only want to see what it can believe and conjure up a construct to rationalize the effect that absolutely has to have something in between the two objects in order for the effect to be realized. That is were we are today and what Ken wants to do is add more layers to the false magnetic field construct because he could never rationalize anything more with his experiments which are all faulty to begin with. But he is not alone because 99.99999% of the world is like that as well.

So Faraday says its a field, then we ask how is the field making electricity move in the wires. Hmmmmm. OK, we'll say the field makes electrons move in the wire. Hmmmm. But how. OK, we better think fast otherwise this field idea will fall in the dumpster. OK, copper is made of atoms, and those atoms are covered with electrons and its those electrons that the field will make move in the wire and produce electron flow. And this great patchwork of the field, electron was born and is with us till today. hahahahaha

What this did was rob the Atom of all the glory of our effects and placed it in the hands of a non-existent field and electron. The atom was and still is the greatest hero in the universe and its abilities to respond to gravity sources, constant or intermittent gravity sources, pulsing or steady gravity sources is the basis of all our effects in the universe. Nature never overdoes anything. It will always find the most economical means to create an effect and for nature, producing a field that will permeate everything around it is nothing more then a total waste of good energy to produce what? NOTHING. Nature does not do anything for nothing. Nature already knows that the atom can see, can sense, can react all on its own, otherwise what are the chances that fields could have produced all our universe in the way it is. All we would have been is a mishmash of hell.

The field and the electron are simply impostors pushed by the Cabal who controls everything we learn on this rock. It does not mean our toys will not work, because regardless if the construct is good or bad, things will still work. It is only that our level of advancement has been stifled to the point that we are all now stuck on an energy platform that is controlled by a few.

This is where we are today. So even @Atom, if you want to know where I am at then this is it. I have studied the causes and effects and have discovered that the field is impossible.

When Telsa invented AC way back then, he had already proven that the electron flow model is impossible. You cannot have AC with electron flow. You can only have AC with Spin Conveyance that has no flow of anything. Only the nulcei is active, responds to gravity and conveys that response to the next atom, and the next atom and so on. There is no field and no electron required to do all we do today. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

There is only one experiment that is required to even give the field the slightest chance of survival and this experiment has not been done thus far or I have not been able to find anything on such an experiment. I have put it down here:

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3209.msg53505#msg53505
See experiment #1. If anyone in a University wished to do this experiment in a totally impartial manner, then you have an extreme chance of making history. I don't have the equipment required.

Do you seriously believe there is no magnetic field in a vacuum? That the magnetic field is merely a result of "concentrated air", per your post referenced in that URL?

Oh, dear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo6D1eYDrNo
Magnets, their force undiminished in a strong normal vacuum. Now, in a perfect vacuum (no atmosphere, no QVZPE field), magnetism wouldn't be possible, because there would be no virtual photons which mediate magnetism... but we have no way of making a perfect vacuum. In a normal vacuum (no atmosphere), magnetic force is undiminished.

Quote from: wattsup on January 15, 2016, 02:45:17 PM
I have to say that what I like about Ken is his ability to make something so old look so new even though for me all his explanations are pure fantasy. He has succeeded in complicating the already over complicated with more layers of dreams. But at least he took it to its limits. I just sat around and plugged here and there and finally saw he did away with the electron (good sign) and that gave me some hope for his intellectual salvation. But for not. You see, in order to survive in the world of universal constructs, which none have thus far, you have to be able to take a construct and put it through all its paces. You become your worst critic. You attack the idea from all sides then work out the counter arguments and from there you then add a new part and start over, then add again and start over. If the construct fails at any point in that study, you modify it logically and do it all over again. It is only when that one construct can hold its own against every other effect in the universe that you can then "start" realizing you are on the right track and all of a sudden all those effects that you thought you knew about come to life in a totally new way. I have been doing that for the last 5 years. hahahahahahaha and can say that Spin Conveyance will be the next step and will lead to simple OU devices and not those world blowing devices @Atom is talking about.

Have you not ever had a bad feeling about the Earth. We say it has gravity, which it does, but then we add that it also produces a magnetic field (which it does not). Do you not ever feel uncomfortable with this double identity. One that is the original and one that was added by our imagination. We convince ourselves by sending out satellites to "map the outer field of the Earth". But we do not realize that those "conductive" or "copper wire laden" sensors are responding directly to Earths gravity and not a field that the Earth would have to expend in order to exude. Just because you get a sensor reading, it does not prove a field is existing. It only proves that the copper atoms have good eyesight and can convey what they see down the line without any of the atoms ever moving, only their nuclei will swing, sway, spin, stay, show or shoot and one will say to the next, and the next. Only the nuclei needs to do this and no electrons or fields are required. hahahahaha

Take 100 people and make them stand side by side in a big circle all holding hands. One 1st person squeezes the hand of the 2nd, the 2nd squeezes the hand of the 3rd and so on until the squeeze signal gets back to the first person. You would be amazed at how quickly that information is "conveyed" from 1st to last and starts over again. This is human speed. Imagine at atomic speed. hehehe

When you say the words "field" and "electron" know that you are robbing the Atom of its abilities and in turn the Atom is robbing you of any advancement. Action/reaction. Just like the Cabal want it.

Sorry for long post. hehehe

wattsup

You're conflating two completely disparate forces. If the magnet creates gravity, as you claim, then all matter would be attracted to it... wood, for instance... is wood attracted to a magnet? No.

Then you'll have to contend with diamagnetic material... is bismuth or pyrolytic carbon floating off the planet and into space? No, because gravity and magnetism are two separate and different forces.

As for the electron, it is mass, it is real. A blurb I'd written previously in dismantling Wheeler's misconceptions:
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Mr. Wheeler also says "Electricity is utterly a mass-free phenomena", but the rest mass of an electron can be and has been measured to be 9.11e−31 kilograms, or 0.511 MeV (which, if you'll remember, I derived (http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2182.msg29624#msg29624) by calculating the rest mass of a hydrogen atom, and the rest mass of the proton within that hydrogen atom, arriving at 0.5106 MeV for the rest mass of the electron after splitting the proton out of the atom), which is why it's more beneficial to cleave the proton from the nucleus than it is to strip the electron from its orbit when dissociating water... that 0.5106 MeV electron then goes on to interact with other molecules, creating a cascade effect that helps to split other water molecules. Keep in mind that's the rest mass of an electron, not the relativistic mass.

Not to mention that electricity doesn't even have to consist of electrons... you can have a proton stream that is considered electricity, and protons most definitely have rest mass... 1.672621777e−27 kg.

You've further confused field and force... a field only localizes, spatializes and quantifies a force. As I wrote prior in deconstructing Mr. Wheeler's blather:

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Mr. Wheeler also says "Magnets do not generate attraction and repulsion by throwing particle showers collectively called 'field' at each other as proposed by QM.". Of course, he also says there's no such thing as "attraction and repulsion", so he contradicts himself a bit there.

Ok, so he's reifying an abstract construct (what the QM crowd call "particles" since they don't have any other word for it) that's used to explain the mathematically descriptive noun (and abstract construct) called "field"... a "field" merely being an abstract construct to mathematically quantify force over distance and time, and measure, predict and extrapolate or interpolate how that force over distance and time will react (or has reacted, or is reacting) at any given time for any given set of inputs)... but then, we're now able to observe magnetricity:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17983-magnetricity-observed-for-first-time.html
"Individual magnetic 'charges' - equivalent to the north and south poles of a magnet - have been observed inside a crystalline material called spin ice"

So it would appear that magnets do indeed throw "particles" (the abstract construct, not a literal denotation of a physical object), which create the abstractly described "field" (which is a mathematically quantifiable descriptive noun that allows us to quantify forces over distance and time and predict and extrapolate or interpolate how those forces react) to generate "attraction and repulsion" (another abstract construct to quantify the effects of that force over distance and time).

So rather than accept that we're merely using words as abstracts to describe what we're seeing, he's turned all of physics on its head and now says all fields are non-spatial and non-localized phenomenological modulations of the "aether"... but he forgets that a field, in being a descriptive and mathematically quantifiable abstract construct used to quantify, predict and extrapolate or interpolate the force we're measuring over time and space, must have points of measurement... a gradient that we record... ie: it must be localized and spatialized in order to quantify it. He says a "field" has no points, and "whose locus is simultaneously everywhere and nowhere"!

I guess I'll just point my little 500 gauss bar magnet at planet KOI 1843.03, wait for it to be attracted to Earth, then sell the whole planet for its 70% iron content... because that little bar magnet's field is non-spatial and non-localized... it goes on forever in the aether.

I also guess he's never held a gaussmeter one inch from a magnet, then two inches from it, then three inches from it to measure its field strength at various distances... that'd be localizing and spatializing the field strength of that magnet into a set of points known as a "field".  :P

Funny thing about "fields"... being the descriptive and mathematically quantifiable abstract constructs that they are, used to quantify, predict and extrapolate or interpolate the force being observed... that set of points called a "field" that describes that force can subsequently be used on identical objects without having to bother to measure each identical object (that's kind of the point of creating these abstract constructs called "fields", after all... it allows us to take a set of measurements of one object emanating a force, and apply it to identical objects, or extrapolate / interpolate those measurements to take into account non-identical objects using mathematical algorithms that are derived empirically). And that's all a "field" is, at least to those who don't confuse the force being observed with the field describing that force.

minnie




    This is my take so far. An electron definitely is a particle.
    Relativity has to exist at a basic level....it's logical. (I've never
    attempted GR.)
    Anything that's not been proven to an acceptable level to peers
    can't be considered as fact.
    I have no problem with whatever Kelly writes in his books but if it's
    not backed by solid proof it has to be considered in the realms of
    fiction.
    From my point of view Kelly's book needs a thorough overhaul,
    shedding a whole load of repetitious drivel and putting his theory
    forward in much simpler terms